March 5, 201511 yr The PCIe card I got that was linked earlier worked well for me. But I suspect it's something with the OC ... what BCLK are you using? Cheers, Rob. The BCLK is strapped at 1,00x I forgot to mention the bios version, mines 1201 As an aside, I want to share a small family moment. Yesterday, I gave the wife (she acctually asked! I think she wanted to know where all her shoe and handbag money had gone) a go on the sim. She took off from Langley in the F22 flew up through the clouds (at which point she emitted an uncontrolled WOW) and did some cloud hopping, turned round and decided to land on a road. After, I asked for her impressions. She said, "it made me feel sick." In other words, wow that was amazing. Bri
March 5, 201511 yr Hey Bri, 1201?? The most current is 1103: http://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/RAMPAGE_V_EXTREME/HelpDesk_Download/ BCLK 100 is definitely more safe. Sounds like it was good enough to pass the wife test ... and yeah, what is it with women and shoes? ... oh wait, I guess I better shut up before I hear about men and cars. Glad you're enjoying you new build ... it's always fun to see what a little hardware will do for a flight sim experience. Cheers, Rob. But wait there's more.... Ah ha ... I knew my bird was reliable ... NewEgg on standby. Cheers, Rob. Sad to report I got a dog of a 5960X. Only 4100/4200 reliable, at 1.3V. I wouldn't call that a dog ... but perhaps something else is amiss? I posted the screen shots of my AI Suite 3 settings ... I take it those didn't work for you? Cheers, Rob.
March 5, 201511 yr Rob: Well, dog or not, something is amiss. I can now do 4.3/4.4 and have it go for an hour in AIDA. That is, when it even boots. It routinely fails to load Windows, even at 3.5 or less, thereby launching a cycle of frozen Windows Repair and "Overclock Failed Press F1" screens. So I'm doing a slow, haltingly slow, diagnostic slog-- Reinstalling Windows, Reloading UEFI Swapping boot drives I have another X99 board standing by in case something on the ROG is damaged and a friend's old 5820 to plug in, just in case there's a subtle CPU glitch. Doing it methodically, one variable at a time. Which suuuuuuucks!
March 5, 201511 yr Rob: Well, dog or not, something is amiss. I can now do 4.3/4.4 and have it go for an hour in AIDA. That is, when it even boots. Doing it methodically, one variable at a time. Which suuuuuuucks! I have never had any luck with asus motherboards - they just never accepted an operating system 3 times - maybe just bad luck thats why I always use top of the line Gigabyte and support is excellent you can actually talk to someone in California Rich Sennett
March 5, 201511 yr Well, we're both n=1 experiments. I've had mixed luck with just about every maker since the days of ESDI hard drives. Ask your granddad. I do, however, appreciate U.S tech support, especially if it allows faster access to higher-tier expertise
March 5, 201511 yr I have never had a bad gigabyte board - bios can be a bit wonky but all in all they work great - as I said asus is a crap shoot and good luck getting support - pretty much impossible - I will admit gigabyte support doesn't know much more than me Rich Sennett
March 5, 201511 yr It routinely fails to load Windows, even at 3.5 or less, thereby launching a cycle of frozen Windows Repair and "Overclock Failed Press F1" screens. So I'm doing a slow, haltingly slow, diagnostic slog-- Odd, I've never really had any issues with Asus and I don't think it's because I'm lucky. Asus boards go thru a long QA testing processes prior to packaging ... Asus actually do a lot of R&D and hence their custom OC socket for CPUs. In the long history of me building PCs (going back to the late 80's) I've never had a single motherboard failure or component failure for that matter (from any brand). I've had hard drives fail after a few years of use, but that's it. I've had some motherboards that had odd behavior that was often resolved with a BIOS update and in some cases just moving a card to a different slot. About my only suggestion is to make sure you have the correct max amperage lines from the PSU plugged into the appropriate spots on the motherboard -- there should be 4 power lines EATX12V_1, EATX12V_2, EATXPWR, EZ_PLUG), and don't use a VGA line for the motherboard EATX12V_1 or EATX12V_2 use a dedicate CPU line. Asus do recommend a minimum 1000 Watt PSU. Cheers, Rob. EDIT: also check card seating ... make sure that attaching the screw or flap to hold that card in place can sometimes pull the rear of the card out of the PCIe socket.
March 5, 201511 yr Rob: I too have rarely had trouble with Asus. Got a Corsair AX1200, so no problem there. I do not have the EZ_PLUG in. I understood (wrongly?) that this was only for three-way SLI and up. I only have the one 970, which uses less juice than an EZ-Bake oven
March 5, 201511 yr I do not have the EZ_PLUG in. I understood (wrongly?) that this was only for three-way SLI and up. It provides more power to stabilize the bus ... if you OC it's a good idea to use it regardless of how many GPUs you have slotted in. Cheers, Rob. EDIT: also try to enable the LN2 via the jumper on the motherboard.
March 5, 201511 yr Will give both a try, thanks. BTW, do you find BClock tuning gives better P3D performance than multiplier?
March 5, 201511 yr Yes, higher BCLK seems to work better with P3D ... I had my setup running at 4.8 with 100 BCLK (48 x 100) but P3D time between frames had more variance ... with 4.5 (36 x 125) there was less variance in time between frames. I'm not so much of an FPS hunter, my goal is a modest lock at 30 FPS, I'm more interested in the time between frame variances. If you're looking for higher FPS you may want to go the 48 x 100 route. And on the subject of time between frames I had started another thread regarding Visual Studio 2015 and more specifically it's built in support for measuring time between frames and GPU/CPU performance to identify bottlenecks -- this thread: http://forum.avsim.net/topic/463773-visual-studio-2015-looks-interesting/ When VS 2015 utlimate is officially released (not a preview), I'm gonna dig into this GPU tool and maybe code a P3D performance benchmark application (freeware) so folks can more easily identify where they might be getting bottlenecks and what to do about them. Cheers, Rob.
March 5, 201511 yr Rob: Agree on your strategy. Smoothness, not outright frames, is my goal, as well. It becomes easier to feel the airplane move in the air when it's not jerking and sputtering. Which is why I really want to get this 5960X ticking right. I've flown a few short hops with it--in the 180, and Q400-- and it really makes short work out of texture-loading and rendering. Ups the immersion factor, immensely, even if it's a marginal-to-nil improvement in raw framerate.
March 5, 201511 yr Rob: Now I'm stumped. Powered everything fully. overclocked 34x125. Voltage from 1.29 to 1.35, doesn't matter. Runs perfectly on benchmarks and such for hours. It just doesn't boot reliably. I've tried boosting the boot voltage to no avail. Again, the thing runs fine, now. As long as you can boot it. But it's like kick-starting a leaky Triumph. I don't get it. It either freezes on Windows splash screen, or goes through a boot-reboot-boot-reboot cycle prior to that or both. Does the CPU do any mode-switching at Windows load. Could it be a flaky CPU? It sounds a lot ore like a flaky motherboard. Any ideas?
March 5, 201511 yr It either freezes on Windows splash screen, or goes through a boot-reboot-boot-reboot cycle prior to that or both. Try giving the Ram a little more voltage, I have had modules that needed just slightly more than the spec to become stable.
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