:o  LOOK  :o   Hes trying to start a debate 

 

 

And you know what they say about opinions.

 

 

 

Hey 

 

 

Hey 

 

Just messin' with ya!

I totally disagree on the flight modeling aspect.  I've disagreed with this for all of these years, and it's well known......... that I've disagreed with this for all of these years!   I've never found XP to be better at flight modeling, than some of the well known, and well done flight models for FSX.  I'm really enjoying X-Plane 10, and I still really like FSX.  At the same time, I flew and owned real planes for many years. Flew mostly in the mountain states. I just flew my RealAir Lancair Legacy in Orbx Sedona scenery yesterday with FSX, and never once thought, that X-Plane was superior. I flew my RV6 to Sedona in real life, and the FSX experience, was much the same.  Just the same, I have a lot of fun flying XP10 throughout the simulated western mountain and desert areas of the west USA. It looks great!

 

 

This is just the one topic, that has always griped me. It's marketing hype, as far as I'm concerned. FSX defaults to smooth air. Real planes will often fly in smooth air.  I get the feeling that some feel that X-Plane is better because of the fluid frame rates, and the sensation of bouncing around some.   I tend to observe the sensations & actions to controls, power to weight, etc. Overall, between better models for both sims.............there is no real winner, IMO. I only use believable flight models for both sims.  What's interesting here, is that Carenados for X-Plane, are better flight model wise, than they are for FSX.  Has to do with the fact, the Dan Klue (spell?)  has the X-Plane knowledge to make them X-Plane compatible in a better way.

 

PPL/IR Adopts X-Plane 10

 

http://forum.avsim.net/page/index.html/_/pr-ann/pplir-adopts-x-plane-10-r2911%C2'>

 

"PPL/IR has identified X-Plane as a very useful training tool because the flight modeling is so well done."

 

Marketing hype huh?  Even the EU PPL organisation seems to have fallen for it, too.   /sarc

 

 

I hate Carenado planes in FSX, especially those without Bernt Stoll air file change, but I love them in XPX with Dan Klaue handy work.  XPX models flight differently than FSX.  Mr. J.Comm even made comment that the best of A2A Cessna 172 fly like the default XPX C172.  The developer can still screw it up, but I think it's easier to do it right in XPX than FSX/P3D.  Now just give me a good weather injector and I am happy, that and more than one season (LOL).

I hate Carenado planes in FSX, especially those without Bernt Stoll air file change, but I love them in XPX with Dan Klaue handy work.  XPX models flight differently than FSX.  Mr. J.Comm even made comment that the best of A2A Cessna 172 fly like the default XPX C172.  The developer can still screw it up, but I think it's easier to do it right in XPX than FSX/P3D.  Now just give me a good weather injector and I am happy, that and more than one season (LOL).

Just wait until you see REP comming to live. They are allowed to modify the Carrenado planes. So now you have the gorgeous looks, plus a2a levels of realism. Afaik the first plane is the 210

What is REP??

What is REP??

http://www.simcoders.com/reality-expansion-pack/features

^Thank U ^

 

 

By Multi Crew Experience

 

By "FS++ Simulations" to be more accurate

Get the Jardesign A330

 

I can't stop flying this beauty !!!  :rolleyes:

I decided to remove my FSX installation and get seriously into X-Plane 10 Global(Steam), although my main preference will be P3D3.2(I simply have too many paid addons that I don't want to abandon).

 

This thread has been really helpful, and I'm slowly installing scenery and plugins to bring it up to the visual appeal as my P3D install.

 

Can anyone help me with a recommendation for a 'must have' single engine retract GA, payware AND freeware to help get me started?

 

I would be really grateful.

Hey, this was the thread that helped me so much a year ago when I first got into XP as well!!

 

 

 

Can anyone help me with a recommendation for a 'must have' single engine retract GA, payware AND freeware to help get me started?

 

I'm not really able to think up any freeware that exactly fits the bill, since you specified single engine retract. I'm sure there's some releases there, since almost everything seems to have been made as freeware in XP, but I've never tried anything that fits that specific role.

 

In terms of payware though, the Carenado F33 equipped with the Reality Expansion Pack is really good. Both addons combined make it a bit pricey, but if you're a fan of Bonanzas, it's worthwhile. For something a bit different, the Aerobask E1000 that's been newly released with their Skyview avionics suite is really, really good as well.  I liked it before the upgrade, but their Skyview implementation raises the bar considerably.

 

If you're not stuck on the retractable gear, the AirfoilLabs C172 is very decent as well.  Just keep in mind that it's a mite tough on frames.

 

 

In terms of payware though, the Carenado F33 equipped with the Reality Expansion Pack is really good. Both addons combined make it a bit pricey, but if you're a fan of Bonanzas, it's worthwhile.

 

And if you're not a fan of Bonanzas, just go for the CT210 Centurion with Reality Expansion Pack.

One small and simple addon that might not be one of the well known "must haves" is one that I learned to love and wouldn't want to fly without it.

 

It's called eBag: http://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?/files/file/25848-ebag/

 

It's a neat little utility that let's you pop up PDF and image files within the sim, so you can look up charts, checklists etc. without the need to leave the sim at all or to use a tablet or second monitor.

Thanks everyone for you suggestions