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I'm not sure whether to get a Navigraph charts subscription, does anyone know if it's any good or if there are better programs? I've heard Navigraph is the most updated.

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You can acces the charts for ENAT, KSAN and ZJSY for free as a demo, so you can see what the charts look like for yourself. I believe they are updated four times a year.

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I use Navigraph Cloud Charts (i.e. everything is viewed via the internet rather than downloading).  

 

I wouldn't be without it but you have to be fairly keen on following real world procedures to justify the cost (or have money to burn).

 

If you use complex add-ons such as PMDG 737 or 777, Majestic Dash 8, Aerosoft Airbus etc then the option to go for seems to me to be the combined subscription to the charts and the FMC updates.

 

PS I can't comment on any rivals as once I started using Navigraph, I stuck with it, which says something in itself.  All I can say is that I find it to be an excellent product.

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The only  issue I find is  that you cant   bring  the chart up  in fsx kneeboard or  efb or any other  form if your using  only  one screen  that is,   since  your unable  to download  the chart   to your desktop, correct me  if  iam wrong  since   being trying  to find  a way   to do it?

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I've stopped using Navigraph charts. I got fed up having to pay for the same airport time and time again because something minor changed. If new SIDs or STARs were introduced then fine. But not for minor things like a few parking positions changing.

 

I still subscribe to their FMS service and use Electronic Flight Bag to display airport layouts, SIDs and STARs. Whilst not 100% accurate to real world procedures the STARs are generally pretty good. SIDs from what I can see are fine.

 

EFB is not cheap but is an excellent IFR utility.

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Hi,

 

The only  issue I find is  that you cant   bring  the chart up  in fsx kneeboard or  efb or any other  form if your using  only  one screen  that is,   since  your unable  to download  the chart   to your desktop, correct me  if  iam wrong  since   being trying  to find  a way   to do it?

 

I'm not sure since i use Navigraph Charts to view them, but I can print them as pdf - so if you can display pdf on the kneeboard, it should not be problem......

 

regards

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Why not get the monthly subscription at 7.50 euro. Just get one month and see how you like it

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I'm not sure since i use Navigraph Charts to view them, but I can print them as pdf - so if you can display pdf on the kneeboard, it should not be problem......

 

yea I can view them as well  and I can print  them out  but iam unable  to find  a way  to save  the charts  to my pc  so I can load  them  to my efb etc

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yea I can view them as well  and I can print  them out  but iam unable  to find  a way  to save  the charts  to my pc  so I can load  them  to my efb etc

Scan them?

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Yea  I could  but  thought there would be  a easier  way, think I just use  google  to find  the  charts 

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Peter,

 

If you install a PDF printer (e.g. CutePDF Writer Free) you can "print" to save the PDF files on your computer.

 

Steve

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yea I can view them as well  and I can print  them out  but iam unable  to find  a way  to save  the charts  to my pc  so I can load  them  to my efb etc

Sorry, misread your post so my reply doesn't apply. There are probably copyright reasons why you can't save individual PDFs.

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It is a big investment, but I think well worth it. Solid interface and a high quality and very professional product.

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Peter,

 

If you install a PDF printer (e.g. CutePDF Writer Free) you can "print" to save the PDF files on your computer.

 

Steve

Works like a charm

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Thanks for the information guys, really useful. I had a look on their website and they do an all inclusive yearly fee now for unlimited chart access so there is no need to purchase each individual chart. I also believe you get to keep the charts you download even after your subscription has finished.

 

I don't know why, but the look of EFB puts me off a little when trying to fly professionally. I just get the feeling Navigraph has a more realistic feel to it, but I guess it's just personal preference.

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I also believe you get to keep the charts you download even after your subscription has finished.

 

I think you will find you can not keep those charts. You need to log on every time you want to access the provider

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I think you will find you can not keep those charts. You need to log on every time you want to access the provider

 

I've just launched Navigraph Charts v4.1 and can view all the charts I have bought. Things might be different with later software but no problem with the above. I last bought a chart well over 2 years ago.

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I've just launched Navigraph Charts v4.1 and can view all the charts I have bought. Things might be different with later software but no problem with the above. I last bought a chart well over 2 years ago.

Thats because you bought them outright. You can only buy subscriptions these days

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It is also cheaper if you buy both as a package. They do FMS Data + Charts bundle together.

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I've stopped using Navigraph charts. I got fed up having to pay for the same airport time and time again because something minor changed. If new SIDs or STARs were introduced then fine. But not for minor things like a few parking positions changing.

 

I still subscribe to their FMS service and use Electronic Flight Bag to display airport layouts, SIDs and STARs. Whilst not 100% accurate to real world procedures the STARs are generally pretty good. SIDs from what I can see are fine.

 

EFB is not cheap but is an excellent IFR utility.

 

Exactly my point and my situation.

I used to have the FMS Data subscription for years, only bought charts on a single basis without annual subscription, since I found the price pretty expensive and I found nonsense to pay for charts that I would never use, while other charts I might need were not and probably will never be in the Navigraph database (smaller airports, for example). Problem was, every time a single chart became obsolete for any minor change, which happens very often, I could not simply re-download it in its updated format, but had to buy it again. I confess I never found this practice very fair.

 

Now it appears that the only way to get a chart is to make an annual subscription all the way. I am considering this, but I agree with you that I should probably consider other options as well.

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Thats because you bought them outright. You can only buy subscriptions these days

 

Thanks for clearing that up. So with a subscription you can access as many charts as you want but as soon as it ends you are prevented from viewing them. And I guess you can't save them for off-line use either.

 

The only way that would be economical is if you fly to lots of different airports and fly nearly every day. If you only fly to 20-30 it seems quite expensive.

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Thanks for clearing that up. So with a subscription you can access as many charts as you want but as soon as it ends you are prevented from viewing them. And I guess you can't save them for off-line use either.

 

The only way that would be economical is if you fly to lots of different airports and fly nearly every day. If you only fly to 20-30 it seems quite expensive.

 

You can download charts in the Navigraph charts interface, so I'm assuming you can view them offline, but don't hold me to that.

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Now it appears that the only way to get a chart is to make an annual subscription all the way. I am considering this, but I agree with you that I should probably consider other options as well.

 

I have a subscription for the FMS data which I update 4 times a year. That gives me all I need for Project Magenta CDU / ND and EFB's database.

 

I don't need real-world airport layouts as my 3rd party airports may not be the same. EFB reads all my scenery files and displays my airport layout. Perfect and at reasonable cost.

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I have a subscription for the FMS data which I update 4 times a year. That gives me all I need for Project Magenta CDU / ND and EFB's database.

 

I don't need real-world airport layouts as my 3rd party airports may not be the same. EFB reads all my scenery files and displays my airport layout. Perfect and at reasonable cost.

 

Thank you, Ray, makes full sense to me.

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