These guys take others peoples model's, paints, and plans then rename the files etc and call it their own work

 

This statement would make sense if they would distribute the same models under a different name and with some (minor/major) changes for the same purpose. They are not. Sorry, but for me this makes a big difference. Yes, I agree that it is illegal and unethical to take, use and redistribute other people's work without permission. But, this case is quite different from what I consider and what is normally considered as "piracy".

 

 

and you people supporting it don't see the problem? It's blatant piracy in every way.

With all due respect, please stop suggesting that those who disagree from the main view here are "supporting" piracy. This is pretty unfair. Just as appealing to authority and asking for the mods to lock the thread after one gave his own allegedly "final" statement. I think we can have a fair and honest discussion about this matter here without using such unfaithful means.

Edited June 7, 201511 yr by firehawk44
Suspended for 7 days for advocating use of products developed by others without their permission.

 They have taken other peoples work WITHOUT permission or consent and redistribute it under their own names and tiles.  It's piracy in it's simplest form and shouldn't be tolerated. That's fair and honest and most importantly, true.

 They have taken other peoples work WITHOUT permission or consent and redistribute it under their own names and tiles.  It's piracy in it's simplest form and shouldn't be tolerated. That's fair and honest and most importantly, true.

 

Axiom. It's true because it's true.

With all due respect, please stop suggesting that those who disagree from the main view here are "supporting" piracy. This is pretty unfair. Just as appealing to authority and asking for the mods to lock the thread after one gave his own allegedly "final" statement. I think we can have a fair and honest discussion about this matter here without using such unfaithful means.

What's to discuss? They are repacking someone else's work and redistributing it without the owners permission, which by definition is piracy. You even agree it's illegal and unethical, but yet you want to discuss it or try to make it seem like it's not as bad as what it is.

Permision of owner was not given or asked for.

But for the work of some one else there would not be a product.

 

Anyone trying to then legitimise that this practice while unfair is not strictly stealing is supporting piracy and theft.

When you guys have quite finished waving your appendages at each other, can someone who's actually used this say if it's any good and worth bothering with please?

Edited June 7, 201511 yr by firehawk44
Ability to post topics removed for a couple of days. AVSIM has a strict prohibition of piracy in any form. It is nothing to joke about here at AVSIM.

When you guys have quite finished waving your appendages at each other, can someone who's actually used this say if it's any good and worth bothering with please?

 You're missing the point. It's stealing.

When you guys have quite finished waving your appendages at each other, can someone who's actually used this say if it's any good and worth bothering with please?

That's like asking if i download a pirated version of a aircraft does it work and said aircraft is "free" also

 

This "product " is piracy if you don't get that then....well.......

 

About the "borrowing" a car.....please how bad of a e.g was that dear me, if someone "borrowed" my car and I found them they would need a ride in an ambulance for there next journey.

I am guessing Jim must be out playing golf,

Cannot believe a thread with so many folks blatantly supporting piracy has stayed open this long. I am glad to see so many can actually see where this package is Pirated software and at the same time saddened by the few who's value systems seem at odds with Avsims stance against software piracy.

 

 

 

When you guys have quite finished waving your appendages at each other, can someone who's actually used this say if it's any good and worth bothering with please?
 

 

 

Just use WOAI instead, those guys actually got permission to put their packages together.

Thanks to everyone who explained to OP and others about stealing other developers products.  AVSIM does not condone piracy in any form.  Trying to justify the stealing of others hard work will not be allowed here.  Topic locked.