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AI Traffic for Prepar3d is released!

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Enjoy folks!
I just download it.
It is an very easy install.
 
 

According to the manual to disable the original Ai of Prepard3:
 
- To disable the original FS2004 or FSX AI, you must do the following: FSX: navigate to: Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Scenery\World\Scenery and find a file called "trafficAircraft.bgl" rename it to "trafficAircraft.bak" and that is it.
  This way the original AI is dissabled but not deleted.
 
  (Note, the above system is the same in FSX SE and Prepar3D)


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Enjoy folks!

I just download it.

It is an very easy install.

 

Thank you much

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Is it me or does this look an awful lot like the other free AI program that shall not be named? Different name, same setup. Hmmmm

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### AI under another name, at least this time round they admit to not owning any of the models or flightplans.

 

It's stealing, whichever way you look at it.

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### AI under another name, at least this time round they admit to not owning any of the models or flightplans.

 

It's stealing, whichever way you look at it.

 

Sorry, but people here at Avsim seem to confuse things a little. This is using things without permission. It is wrong? Very. But it's not stealing nor pirating, it's using without permission from the authors.

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it's using without permission from the authors.

 

If I "borrowed" you car without your permission it would not be stealing ?

 

Distributing without the permission of the authors is Pirating, be it software or music or the written word it is still theft.

You really need to rethink your value system.

 

Give your earlier comment some real thought and apply it to something that you created.

"But it's not stealing nor pirating, it's using without permission from the authors."

 

That is my last contribution to this thead, I will leave it to the Avsim mods to decide how long they let this thread run.

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If I "borrowed" you car without your permission it would not be stealing ?

 

Distributing without the permission of the authors is Pirating, be it software or music or the written word it is still theft.

You really need to look rethink your value system.

 

Not if you brought it back. Two completely different situations, you can't compare, you are not dealing with physical goods. And it's freeware, so there are no commercial licenses too. As I said, it is very wrong, I personally think it's a despicable attitude, but it's not stealing.  

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Not if you brought it back.

 

I doubt that the legal system would see it that way.

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. And it's freeware, so there are no commercial licenses too.

 

If I included the following statement in a Freeware package would you still feel it was Ok to distribute it ?

"This package, and its contents, can not be redistributed in any way without the
author's explicit and written permission."
 

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Sorry, but people here at Avsim seem to confuse things a little. This is using things without permission. It is wrong? Very. But it's not stealing nor pirating, it's using without permission from the authors. 

 

That's stealing. If you used my car or my home without my permission that's stealing. 

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If I included the following statement in a Freeware package would you still feel it was Ok to distribute it ?

 

"This package, and its contents, can not be redistributed in any way without the

author's explicit and written permission."

 

 

Let me just make one thing really clear here: I never said it was ok to distribute it. I'll repeat, I find what these guys do despicable. But in answer to your question, you can state whatever you want, it's just a statement, it has no legal bearing whatsoever. 

 

And that's the last I'll say about this, because it doesn't matter what I say, people here will treat me like if I was defending these practices, and that's not my intention.  

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because it doesn't matter what I say, people here will treat me like if I was defending these practices, and that's not my intention.

 

Well I have already made my mind up about you, as I am sure a few more folk have based on your statements here.

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Using without permission from the authors is illegal, but, in this specific case, it is not exactly piracy, because they use such material to compile a brand new product with a completely different scope (AI traffic), which they offer for free.
 

 

 

Distributing without the permission of the authors is Pirating, be it software or music or the written word it is still theft.

False. Distributing a software or a music protected by copyright is piracy, because you're distributing the product itself. They are not distributing the 737 NGX by PMDG or the Airbus A319 by Aerosoft as they are. They use them to create a new product with a quite different purpose. There is a very big difference.

 

 

 

If I included the following statement in a Freeware package would you still feel it was Ok to distribute it ?

"This package, and its contents, can not be redistributed in any way without the
author's explicit and written permission."

Just another misleading example. They are not distributing the product itself (freeware or payware) as it is.

 

Their attitude is questionable, for sure. But I am not sure it actually configures piracy.

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Using without permission from the authors is illegal, but, in this specific case, it is not exactly piracy, because they use such material to compile a brand new product with a completely different scope (AI traffic), which they offer for free.

The definition of piracy:

pi·ra·cy

 

the unauthorized use or reproduction of another's work.

 

Seems pretty simple to me. You take someone else's work and use it or redistribute it without their permission, then it's piracy.

 

Doesn't matter what reason they are doing it for, or if they are selling it or giving it for free, it's still piracy.

Just another misleading example. They are not distributing the product itself (freeware or payware) as it is.

 

Their attitude is questionable, for sure. But I am not sure it actually configures piracy.

By definition above, it's still piracy because they are in a sense reproducing someone else's work, be it the models and/or flight plans, and rolling it into one package, which is reproducing without the owners permission and is piracy.

 

No matter how you look at it or try to make it seem ok, if you take something that you didn't make and redistribute it in any form without the owners permission, then it's piracy. Simple as that.

 

 

This thread should be locked as its against Avsim's stance on the matter.

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 These guys take others peoples model's, paints, and plans then rename the files etc and call it their own work and you people supporting it don't see the problem? It's blatant piracy in every way.

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These guys take others peoples model's, paints, and plans then rename the files etc and call it their own work

 

This statement would make sense if they would distribute the same models under a different name and with some (minor/major) changes for the same purpose. They are not. Sorry, but for me this makes a big difference. Yes, I agree that it is illegal and unethical to take, use and redistribute other people's work without permission. But, this case is quite different from what I consider and what is normally considered as "piracy".

 

 

and you people supporting it don't see the problem? It's blatant piracy in every way.

With all due respect, please stop suggesting that those who disagree from the main view here are "supporting" piracy. This is pretty unfair. Just as appealing to authority and asking for the mods to lock the thread after one gave his own allegedly "final" statement. I think we can have a fair and honest discussion about this matter here without using such unfaithful means. Edited by firehawk44
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 They have taken other peoples work WITHOUT permission or consent and redistribute it under their own names and tiles.  It's piracy in it's simplest form and shouldn't be tolerated. That's fair and honest and most importantly, true.

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 They have taken other peoples work WITHOUT permission or consent and redistribute it under their own names and tiles.  It's piracy in it's simplest form and shouldn't be tolerated. That's fair and honest and most importantly, true.

 

Axiom. It's true because it's true.

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With all due respect, please stop suggesting that those who disagree from the main view here are "supporting" piracy. This is pretty unfair. Just as appealing to authority and asking for the mods to lock the thread after one gave his own allegedly "final" statement. I think we can have a fair and honest discussion about this matter here without using such unfaithful means.

What's to discuss? They are repacking someone else's work and redistributing it without the owners permission, which by definition is piracy. You even agree it's illegal and unethical, but yet you want to discuss it or try to make it seem like it's not as bad as what it is.

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Permision of owner was not given or asked for.

But for the work of some one else there would not be a product.

 

Anyone trying to then legitimise that this practice while unfair is not strictly stealing is supporting piracy and theft.

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When you guys have quite finished waving your appendages at each other, can someone who's actually used this say if it's any good and worth bothering with please?

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When you guys have quite finished waving your appendages at each other, can someone who's actually used this say if it's any good and worth bothering with please?

 You're missing the point. It's stealing.

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When you guys have quite finished waving your appendages at each other, can someone who's actually used this say if it's any good and worth bothering with please?

That's like asking if i download a pirated version of a aircraft does it work and said aircraft is "free" also

 

This "product " is piracy if you don't get that then....well.......

 

About the "borrowing" a car.....please how bad of a e.g was that dear me, if someone "borrowed" my car and I found them they would need a ride in an ambulance for there next journey.

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I am guessing Jim must be out playing golf,

Cannot believe a thread with so many folks blatantly supporting piracy has stayed open this long. I am glad to see so many can actually see where this package is Pirated software and at the same time saddened by the few who's value systems seem at odds with Avsims stance against software piracy.

 

 

 

When you guys have quite finished waving your appendages at each other, can someone who's actually used this say if it's any good and worth bothering with please?
 

 

 

Just use WOAI instead, those guys actually got permission to put their packages together.

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Thanks to everyone who explained to OP and others about stealing other developers products.  AVSIM does not condone piracy in any form.  Trying to justify the stealing of others hard work will not be allowed here.  Topic locked.

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