July 2, 201510 yr heard a rumour that whilst Windows 10 may well be free to upgrade after a while you will be charged a regular fee to update That's my understanding also, 1st year is free for Win10 ... updates after that 1st year will require a subscription. http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-goes-public-with-more-details-on-its-windows-10-rollout-plan/?tag=nl.e539&s_cid=e539&ttag=e539&ftag=TRE17cfd61 As I understand it, Win10 will continue working if you don't pay the subscription fee after the year is up, you just don't get any more updates. But if you decide NOT to pay the subscription, you could be left with newer applications that may require a specific "level" (version update) of Win10 before installing and this could be a problem for those that don't want to do the subscription route. My personal opinion of the subscription process ... that's they only way software development can survive (in the "retail" world) ... the only other option is sponsors/advertiser funding software development. Cheers, Rob.
July 3, 201510 yr That's my understanding also, 1st year is free for Win10 ... updates after that 1st year will require a subscription. http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-goes-public-with-more-details-on-its-windows-10-rollout-plan/?tag=nl.e539&s_cid=e539&ttag=e539&ftag=TRE17cfd61 As I understand it, Win10 will continue working if you don't pay the subscription fee after the year is up, you just don't get any more updates. But if you decide NOT to pay the subscription, you could be left with newer applications that may require a specific "level" (version update) of Win10 before installing and this could be a problem for those that don't want to do the subscription route. My personal opinion of the subscription process ... that's they only way software development can survive (in the "retail" world) ... the only other option is sponsors/advertiser funding software development. Cheers, Rob. Wait, what???? MS has already declared that W10 will NOT be a subscription like their failure, Office 365. https://twitter.com/OjJanne/status/606721723074002944 i7-6700K @ 4.5 GHz, 16 GB DDR4-2400 MHz, GTX 1070 8GB
July 3, 201510 yr Wait, what???? I read the same thing from ceo - no subscription period - I dont think many would opt for that and they will shoot themselves in the foot - I can see selling it like they always have in boxed format but subscription doubt it Rich Sennett
July 3, 201510 yr Anyone with a Genuine version of Windows 7 SP1 /8.1 qualifies for a free upgrade to Windows 10 during the first year after Win10 goes GA on 29 July. For those individuals there will never be a charge for Windows 10 updates as long as they continue to use Windows 10 on that PC for that PC's lifetime. There is no subscription service for updates. Here are Terry Myerson's words on the subject (2nd paragraph) from a Microsoft blog post on 15 May. If a person who has a PC with a Genuine version of Windows 7 SP1 / 8.1 declines to take the free upgrade during the first year after GA, they will have to purchase a boxed or downloaded version in order to upgrade to Windows 10. After they do the upgrade, all updates for Windows 10 on that PC will be free... no subscription. Doug Miannay PC: i9-13900K (OC 6.1) | ASUS Maximus Z790 Hero | ASUS Strix RTX4080 (OC) | ASUS ROG Strix LC II 360 AIO | 32GB G.Skill DDR5 TridentZ RGB 6400Hz | Samsung 990 Pro 1TB M.2 (OS/Apps) | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB M.2 (Sim) | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB M.2 (Games) | Fractal Design Define R7 Blackout Case | Win11 Pro x64
July 3, 201510 yr If a person who has a PC with a Genuine version of Windows 7 SP1 / 8.1 declines to take the free upgrade during the first year after GA, they will have to purchase a boxed or downloaded version in order to upgrade to Windows 10. After they do the upgrade, all updates for Windows 10 on that PC will be free... no subscription. This is correct. i7-6700K @ 4.5 GHz, 16 GB DDR4-2400 MHz, GTX 1070 8GB
July 3, 201510 yr I've read multiple reports with very different interpretations of how Microsoft plan to move users to a subscription OS. Belfiore has indicated they are "working out the kinks" ... if I didn't know better Microsoft seem to be tossing out information "clarifications" (which really aren't) in an attempt to gauge reaction. Numerous Microsoft individuals/execs are being quoted with information that seem diametrically opposite. It'll be interesting to see what actually happens. FYI, I'm already on the Microsoft subscription plan via MSDN Ultimate which has proven to be a BIG revenue stream for Microsoft but it doesn't fall into the Operating system bucket and isn't realize by those financials. Cheers, Rob.
July 3, 201510 yr Given the available information it seems that MS will give a free copy of Windows 10 and free updates if you already have a valid copy of Windows for the life time of THAT computer. It seems to me that MS will start charging for updates should you change that PC or perhaps any major component. Does P3D work on Linux? Ian R Tyldesley
July 3, 201510 yr ...you change that PC or perhaps any major component. That's what Microsoft has always done on OEM versions of Windows installed by computer manufacturers. Gerry Howard
July 3, 201510 yr Moderator Does P3D work on Linux? No it does not. Fr. Bill AOPA Member: 07141481 AARP Member: 3209010556 Avsim Board of Directors | Avsim Forums Moderator
July 3, 201510 yr No it does not. Yeah i guessed...i was being sarcastic. I did once attempt to get FSX working under WINE, it wasn't a complete failure, but not usable. Ian R Tyldesley
July 3, 201510 yr Does P3D work on Linux?[ ...i was being sarcastic. How were we supposed to know? Gerry Howard
July 3, 201510 yr It seems to me that MS will start charging for updates should you change that PC or perhaps any major component. This makes no sense... i7-6700K @ 4.5 GHz, 16 GB DDR4-2400 MHz, GTX 1070 8GB
July 4, 201510 yr Given the available information it seems that MS will give a free copy of Windows 10 and free updates if you already have a valid copy of Windows for the life time of THAT computer. Not just valid copies. Free to pirated copies as well. Dick
July 4, 201510 yr Not just valid copies. Free to pirated copies as well. Dick Yes, Dick, but not the full story. Microsoft will allow non-Genuine (pirated) copies of Windows 7/8.1 to upgrade to Windows 10, but the result will be a non-Genuine copy of Windows 10 which will not be supported. To become Genuine, you will still need to purchase a license. Here's a good article from Paul Thurrott that quotes Microsoft's Terry Myerson. Doug Miannay PC: i9-13900K (OC 6.1) | ASUS Maximus Z790 Hero | ASUS Strix RTX4080 (OC) | ASUS ROG Strix LC II 360 AIO | 32GB G.Skill DDR5 TridentZ RGB 6400Hz | Samsung 990 Pro 1TB M.2 (OS/Apps) | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB M.2 (Sim) | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB M.2 (Games) | Fractal Design Define R7 Blackout Case | Win11 Pro x64
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