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http://wccftech.com/intel-skylake-s-lineup-list-price-i7-6700k-313-i5-6600k-225/

 

There are a few online stores in Australia selling now -- 

 

http://wccftech.com/intel-skylake-core-i7-6700k-core-i5-6600k-solid-australia-unofficially-box-art-revealed/

 

Will there be any considerable difference in P3D/FSX performance 6600k and the 6700k? (4 threads vs 8). 

 

Who is upgrading? 

 

 

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As stated in another post:

 

"I suppose we can add this to the list of `gamechanging` technologies, not a single one of which has actually substantially changed the game, despite the plaudits."

 

Until the core code is completely rewritten I see no need in upgrading.

 

With all the money I've been chasing FS with for 30 years I could have paid my daughters college tuition.  

 

Just my two cents worth.

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I've been running FSX on an Intel 2500k clocked up to 4.7 Ghz -- most recently upgrade was the graphics card - Nvidia 970.

 

I estimate I've spent a total of 1000 USD on upgrades to my computer in the last 5 years. 

 

I would like to see how much we can overclock the new 6600k and 6700k -- it won't be a 'budget' upgrade

 

- New CPU + RAM + heatsink + motherboard

 

If corsair can get their act together soon and launch the Bulldog, then I will house it in there. 

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I would like to build a new computer this year, no rush but if the overclock is good it might be time.  My ram is slow and I am still on regular hard drives.  Also my second computer is a 10 year old windows XP machine and I would like to switch over and use my current computer as the second machine. 

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"Gaming performance shows the performance of Core i7-6700K being better than the six core Core i7-5820K. Since DirectX 12 leverages per core and multi-core performance, we can see even higher gains in gaming. The Core i7-6700K Skylake officially launches on Wednesday, next week, so stay tuned for more information."

Read more: http://wccftech.com/intel-skylake-core-i7-6700k-review-gaming-performance-5820k/#ixzz3hqjKKhhN

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Who is upgrading? 

 

Waiting for the Skylake-E version (Q3 2016). Going to go all out on the upgrades.

 

Nice box art. B)

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I will probably give it a thought once K arrives next year. Till then I see no point as I love to OC :)

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"Gaming performance shows the performance of Core i7-6700K being better than the six core Core i7-5820K. Since DirectX 12 leverages per core and multi-core performance, we can see even higher gains in gaming. The Core i7-6700K Skylake officially launches on Wednesday, next week, so stay tuned for more information."

Read more: http://wccftech.com/intel-skylake-core-i7-6700k-review-gaming-performance-5820k/#ixzz3hqjKKhhN

 

Im pretty sure when the say "Gaming performance" and "DX12" they arent referencing an 8 year old platform that still hasnt proven efficient at multi-threading on current CPU's whose architecture is closer to the CPU's it was designed on. Dont expect to see more than a little, if any, performance gains in P3D or FSX.

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I will probably give it a thought once K arrives next year. Till then I see no point as I love to OC :)

I thought the 6700K was this year?

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I thought the 6700K was this year?

You might be right. I've missread and it's Q3 apparently.

Doesn't matter for me anyway. Got Devil's Canyon not long ago and I'm quite happy with it :)

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To my understanding, for P3D, 4.8Ghz is 4.8Ghz (my current clock on a 3770k). Even if one of these new buggers can hit 5.2Ghz, that's an 8% increase that, in many circumstances, will only benefit us by adding more clocks to core 0. So, to put that in perspective, if core 0 is bottlenecking us in a typical CPU-bound scenario (e.g. flying around FT Toronto in a PMDG craft in mostly clear skies) and I'm normally getting 20 FPS, whoopee, now I'm getting 21.6. That frame and a half isn't worth the lump of cash for a new processor, mobo, case, etc.

 

What we need here is for an expert to tell us if the architecture changes, die shrinks, etc. in newer generations (e.g. for me, anything newer than an Ivy Bridge) help us in any other foreseeable way.

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To my understanding, for P3D, 4.8Ghz is 4.8Ghz (my current clock on a 3770k). Even if one of these new buggers can hit 5.2Ghz, that's an 8% increase that, in many circumstances, will only benefit us by adding more clocks to core 0. So, to put that in perspective, if core 0 is bottlenecking us in a typical CPU-bound scenario (e.g. flying around FT Toronto in a PMDG craft in mostly clear skies) and I'm normally getting 20 FPS, whoopee, now I'm getting 21.6. That frame and a half isn't worth the lump of cash for a new processor, mobo, case, etc.

 

What we need here is for an expert to tell us if the architecture changes, die shrinks, etc. in newer generations (e.g. for me, anything newer than an Ivy Bridge) help us in any other foreseeable way.

Not mentioning the extra cooling you need to safely play with 5GHz+

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Not mentioning the extra cooling you need to safely play with 5GHz+

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the 6700k can hit over 5 ghz on air cooling. http://forum.avsim.net/topic/472109-skylake-core-i7-6700k-clocks-to-52ghz-on-air-cooling/#entry3274465

To my understanding, for P3D, 4.8Ghz is 4.8Ghz (my current clock on a 3770k).

 

What we need here is for an expert to tell us if the architecture changes, die shrinks, etc. in newer generations (e.g. for me, anything newer than an Ivy Bridge) help us in any other foreseeable way.

To my understanding an clocked processor is not the same, ie you can't compare apples to oranges. A 2500k clocked at 4.8 ghz does not perform at the same level as s 3370k 4.8k

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To my understanding an clocked processor is not the same, ie you can't compare apples to oranges. A 2500k clocked at 4.8 ghz does not perform at the same level as s 3370k 4.8k

 

Ok, but do we have any tests that show this?

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I'm sitting on an overclocked Sandy bridge, 4.8. Each generation since has given higher instructions per cycle. Looks like now that totals about 40-45%. With the added overclocking capability, I estimate 50% higher frames with a Skylake @ 5.2. 20 frames would be 30. I think that for me, the cost becomes worth it all factors considered, DDR4 and (PCI 4.0?). Those sitting on Haswell can easily wait for Cannonlake or beyond. My 2 cents.

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In my opinion, a Skylake system will not make that much of a difference in the overall performance of FSX than a well tuned Ivy Bridge / Devils Canyon or Sandy Bridge CPU system. It will be quite interesting to see how much higher they can overclock than a 4790k as well as their thermal performance. Not holding out much hope though,

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Everything is faster with new architecture - I'm sitting here at 4ghz with my dying 2500K.

 

A 6700K is something I've got my eye on for sure

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So many folks are negative about every new development.

 

I'm looking forward to seeing what happens. If it is true that you can get 5.0 with air cooling, what will we see with water cooling? 5.5 would make FSX really sing.

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The energy requirements are so low they are sticking one onto the Intel compute stick.

 

I will upgrade, it's about time. What air cooler would you recommend?

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Upgrading to 6700k asap.  Sure, the 4790k is nice, but 6700k is rumored to clock higher easier, and do it cooler (smaller die).  I think pairing it with 2 980ti hybrids will be just perfect for p3d!  Newer architecture is always nice, and DDR4 sounds like it will be fun to dump more money into!  And the ROG Maximus VIII Extreme at $300+, why not!  This build should be epic!  Maybe the 1151 socket will be better for more than 1 upgrade in the future :/  I'm a moron.  I love new tech tho.


 

 


What air cooler would you recommend?

 

Methinks the Hyper 212 evo is still a great cooler.  Cheap too.

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No one's being negative. I, for one, would just like to see a bloody test instead of all this "it will give us 50% better FPS" or "newer architectures are always faster." IETU, 3DMark physics, et al all make good benchmarks but the issue that I'm bringing here--and, wait, get this--purely has to do with FSX/P3D. How do those applications respond to newer archictectures, primarily within the context of using the same clock speeds?

 

Do people here really make decisions in the rest of their lives the same way they make them here? I suggest some folks look into the scientific method and/or evidence-based management.

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Prices for the 6700k too hot to handle right now, inflated prices. I think I'll wait until the official release, I'll run some benchmarks when I get it all setup.

 

One who knocks - currently using the evo 212 on my 2500k but on my next build I like to build a slim steam like Pc. The cooler is huge!

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Yes, not impressive at all. Very small improvements if any and one review says not to expect over-clocking past 4.8 although it was unclear to me if that meant with just air cooling or included water cooling. Bummer. The negatives were right again!

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In my opinion, a Skylake system will not make that much of a difference in the overall performance of FSX than a well tuned Ivy Bridge / Devils Canyon or Sandy Bridge CPU system. It will be quite interesting to see how much higher they can overclock than a 4790k as well as their thermal performance. Not holding out much hope though,

Could be as much as 16% compared with Ivy bridge.

 

The energy requirements are so low they are sticking one onto the Intel compute stick.

 

I will upgrade, it's about time. What air cooler would you recommend?

I'd go for the NH-D15. Still the best around. As long as you have enough RAM clearance and big enough enclosure.

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