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How do you spend your time on long-haul flights?

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I seem to recall there was a similar thread some years back, but I can't find it.

 

I was 'inspired' to post here by this thread:

 

http://www.avsim.com/topic/477776-i-need-motivation-to-fly/

 

I wonder how other folks spend their time on long-haul FS9/FSX flights. Once you're at cruise altitude things go a bit quiet (well, yes, that's true of real-world too, I know!). So if you are flying London to Singapore, how do you spend the time? Anyone actually stay glued to the sim for twelve hours? Or do you just leave it running and go down the pub for that (not so) swift half? (I of course refuse, like any serious simmer, to increase the sim rate!!).

 

Ideas, novel or not, on how to fill in those lonely hours welcome. (Going to join IVAO & BA Virtual when I am back - maybe that will spice things up a bit?).

 

Martin

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I have done only 1 long range flight with no time fast forward.  I did break it down into smaller segments by

 

using the "save" key and coming back to it later.  This TV show had better answers though!

 

https://youtu.be/Z2CJMiwACUY

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Yes, a botched landing, especially after long-haul - or equally, a CTD - puts me in a bad mood for at least a day!!!

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Cant remember were i seen it,  but there was a chap telling a story about when he does long flights he gets his girlfriend involved by doing roll play,  he would be the pilot and she was the passenger, he would set the flight up and serve her food and drinks and so.  Through out the flight he would get her maybe a cover or pillow to rest. Also setting up an in flight movie lol   I thought that was brilliant. 

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I have a desk job and find that flight simulation is the perfect hobby for it. I depart, climb to cruise level and then get a lot of work done until I initiate descent ;)

 

So in a way I stay glued to my desk, but my yoke has to move for my work :)

 

Peter

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Hehe maybe I should be doing more - I'd depart then set AP and go do chores / play with the kids, then do my approach hours later

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Well, I tend to fly short-haul too.

 

To answer my own question, if I do have long flights, I often watch real-world cockpit videos on the TV, or Air Crash Investigation - trying to keep 'on topic'! Watching 'Big Bang Theory' or something like that doesn't seem right somehow when I am supposed to be 'flying' passengers!

 

One great plane to fly long-haul is the great PSS/JustFlight Concorde. Not only is EGLL/LFPG to KJFK super-fast, but there's lots to do while you're getting the plane up to 50,000' and Mach 2 - and then back down again from Gander onwards! I'm a bit of a purist though when it comes to FS! I don't fly routes that real airlines don't fly - so no London to Bangkok or whatever for Concorde: airlines get deleted from my system immediately they become defunct in the real world! I suppose, in that case, I shouldn't be flying Concorde at all!! (Brings tears to my eyes sometimes: I'm old enough to remember its first commercial flight from Heathrow - I lived close enough to the airport to hear its take-off roar and then see it fly over my house (on Rwy27L/R departures!). Fond memories....).

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I trend to fly longhauls almost every Saturday. During those flights I generally do the chores, read, cook dinner, and watch TV.

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I feel like such an amateur.  The most i would do is maybe, let the dog out to do his business or maybe make a milky coffee  

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I only fly GA so I take along interesting people enroute to interesting places and events and we pass the time together. I have a handful who are not legitimately qualified, but still serve well in the right seat to watch for traffic and help me listen for ATC calls.

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I also don't do long hauls. I do 1hr GA flights. I (sadly) get bored quite rapdly.

 

Years ago I did KJFK-EGLL in the stock 747, in 2-3 days (saving the flight).

 

Lastly I got some curiosity to start flying jets again. Something like the 737 or Q400. Common routes of my country. I don't know if its worth the money. I also do not have any scenery (only FTX full fat region).

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I wouldn't bother with scenery for long haul. Just a couple nice airports.

Yeah. OOM will be a problem. 

 

Also my system could barely support the load of PMDG + stock scenery.

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I'm with Ryan. I think the reason I love the Dash 8 so much (apart from the fact it's the one aircraft I really *understand* how to fly) is because it's busy. Short hops, sometimes only 20 mins airborne between smallish airports and fast turnarounds is what makes it so much fun.

 

You can do three busy, challenging sectors in the Q400 before the 777 pilot has finished his starter at lunch.

 

Even the real guys get very bored. My Q400 guy now flies the A320 and says if he had a choice of watching the Bus fly itself to Beirut for 5 hours or do four sectors around the islands in a Dash he'd do the latter almost any day of the week. But they pay him more to do the former :)

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When I do a long haul (which is rare), I usually do the takeoff and then hit the sack when I get to cruise. Then I wake up, fly the approach and land.

 

But, I'm with Ryan. Nowadays when I get the time to fly, it's mostly short hops on PilotEdge.

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My FS PC is in the bedroom so sleeping doesn't really work for me.. I keep waking up and then can't resist getting up and checking that everything in the cockpit is OK. Sounds like most folks are the same as me: short haul makes up 95% of my 'big jet' flying and I suppose will continue to do so.

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rarely do long hauls. Most are 1-2 hours.  When I do fly long haul ( probably 1 a month )  I start it just before I go to bed and sleep en-route :)  And wake up with an hour or two still remaining. 

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Even in Aerowinx PSX, I just use it for short flights ( Faro - Lisbon or at most Lisbon - Barcelona ), or simple circuits with bad weather.

 

What's mainly the biggest thrill for me are the flight dynamics and systems modeling, and it's under certain extreme situations that they're more interesting to use.

 

I've considered adding FS2Crew and / or some ATC Robot, but then again, that would require me to be at the PC permanently, unless I can give my co-pilot the ATC stuff while away from the pit, which I do not know if any of the MCE programs is prepared to simulate ?

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Even in Aerowinx PSX, I just use it for short flights ( Faro - Lisbon or at most Lisbon - Barcelona ), or simple circuits with bad weather.

 

What's mainly the biggest thrill for me are the flight dynamics and systems modeling, and it's under certain extreme situations that they're more interesting to use.

 

I've considered adding FS2Crew and / or some ATC Robot, but then again, that would require me to be at the PC permanently, unless I can give my co-pilot the ATC stuff while away from the pit, which I do not know if any of the MCE programs is prepared to simulate ?

 

If it's self-handling radio comms you want, you could always try VoxATC, you can do the radio comms yourself until cruise and then turn on the in-built FO function to handle the radios and switch between centre controllers whilst you are away, just turn off en-route diversions in the menu so it doesn't try route you round traffic (it self-generates traffic, so that's not a problem)

 

Also FS2Crew requires no input once established in the cruise, at least until it's time to start preparing for descent, so you could quite conceivably leave it unattended, just hit the mute button first.

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Lastly I got some curiosity to start flying jets again. Something like the 737 or Q400. Common routes of my country. I don't know if its worth the money. I also do not have any scenery (only FTX full fat region).

 

For the Q400, you could quite conceivably make use of full-fat scenery, there are numerous plausible routes that fit well within a single FTX region (e.g. for England, EGKK-EGNM, EGHI-EGCC, EGTE-EGNT, even more if you add Scotland and include EGPH, EGPF, EGPB etc).

 

For the 737, you could  do the same, and in fact the 737/A319 share a lot of very similar routes at the shorter end of their range (again, e.g. in the UK, EGKK-EGCC, EGLL-EGPH etc).  Obviously they can also do longer routes, at which point the advice to not bother with any full fat scenery and just splurge on airports is perfectly reasonable, particularly if the routes are really long enough to stretch their (virtual) legs.

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I set up my flight plan in simbrief.com, load it into the FMC of the PMDG 777, take off, get to cruise altitude and go back to work. The way PMDG works allows me to do all I want till TOD. Step climbs are automatic, so is cruise speed and so on.

Usually before I'm done with work I start my descent. 7-10h flights are a breeze with PMDG :)

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