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Which manufacturers won't let sim designers produce copies?

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I know there's been some controversy surrounding Gulfstream and sim designers, but what other manufacturers are on the no-no list? I'm guessing due to the lack of Bombardier biz jets, they make the list of off-limits AC for designers? I'd kill to see a decent Global 6000 hit the market.

Honda requested that FlightGear to took down a model of its Honda Jet.

Gerry Howard

Theres a nice Challenger 300 for X-Plane, so I doubt that

-Chris Crawford

-ATP/MEL

- B737 / B777 / B-727 / EMB-145 / LR-JET

 

Why do these companies care?

ATP MEL,CFI,CFII,MEI. Type Ratings B-737, ERJ-190,ERJ-170

 

It's a mystery to me, David.

Christopher Low

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UK2000 Beta Tester

Bombardier evidently has no objection - there are numerous Lear models available for FSX, including the default Lear 45, and Aerosoft is producing the CRJ 700/900.

Jim Barrett

Licensed Airframe & Powerplant Mechanic, Avionics, Electrical & Air Data Systems Specialist. Qualified on: Falcon 900, CRJ-200, Dornier 328-100, Hawker 850XP and 1000, Lear 35, 45, 55 and 60, Gulfstream IV and 550, Embraer 135, Beech Premiere and 400A, MD-80.

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Why do these companies care?

Oddly enough, most of them don't care. It's their bloody-minded corporate lawyers who care...

Fr. Bill    

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When I ran a company, it was the Directors and Managers who took that sort of decision - the lawyers were there to give advice.

In reality there's often no advantage to the company, and so it's simpler to say no rather than to waste time  getting in further involvement.

Gerry Howard

And that is why my payback is to simply not purchase their products :P

Waleed N

Err....how many Gulfstreams have you bought from Grumman/General Dynamics?

Gerry Howard

The "tongue out" emoticon is there for a reason, Gerry.

Christopher Low

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Oddly enough, most of them don't care. It's their bloody-minded corporate lawyers who care...

 

Rabble rabble rabble !lawyers! rabble rabble rabble

 

In reality there's often no advantage to the company, and so it's simpler to say no rather than to waste time  getting in further involvement.

 

I would hazard a guess that it has more to do with protecting their trademarks and intellectual property, among other justifiable reasons.

Anthony Cacciatore

I assume they might be worried that a sim could negatively affect sales for example if the flight model is incorrect or gives a negative impression of the aircraft some how.

Ian R Tyldesley

I've been associated with Gulfstream for many years as a customer / maintainer of Gulfstream aircraft. I've been through many Gulfstream maintenance training schools, toured the factory in Savannah, spent time overseeing maintenance on our aircraft at GAC service centers in Savannah, Long Beach, Dallas and Luton.

 

With them, I'm very sure that it all about protection of the trademark - and that any prohibitions against the production of FS emulation of Gulfstream products originates from the corporate legal department. The company is extremely protective of its brand. Also very protective of its customers' privacy. Photographing aircraft on the flight line at any of their service centers is strictly prohibited.

Jim Barrett

Licensed Airframe & Powerplant Mechanic, Avionics, Electrical & Air Data Systems Specialist. Qualified on: Falcon 900, CRJ-200, Dornier 328-100, Hawker 850XP and 1000, Lear 35, 45, 55 and 60, Gulfstream IV and 550, Embraer 135, Beech Premiere and 400A, MD-80.

The "tongue out" emoticon is there for a reason, Gerry.

 

He doen't know what he means - if there an emoticon for tha?

Gerry Howard

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