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LED Lights and new start levers

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First off, I'm not asking for anything, nor am I being ungrateful.

 

If any of the mods/developers are reading, new 737ng's coming off the line now don't have nose wheel lights and retractables.

 

New ones have led wing lights which still use the same switch with the retractables, except, when pushed once, they are only at about 20% brightness (for taxi) then 100% when pushed fully down.

 

Also, the start levers are now 777 style. I can dig out pics if needed.

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First off, I'm not asking for anything, nor am I being ungrateful.

 

Appreciate the clarity here.

 

I haven't heard anything about either of these. Have links to anything official, or is this an STC people are getting?

 

Also: full names - first and last - in the forum, please.

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Appreciate the clarity here.

 

I haven't heard anything about either of these. Have links to anything official, or is this an STC people are getting?

 

Also: full names - first and last - in the forum, please.

They're coming off the line with the changes.

 

The lighting is called LTRTL. It puts all the lighting in the wing root. No more taxi light on the nosewheel.

 

The new Start Levers (switches) do have a light for engine fire indication. This change also modifies the parking brake lever.

 

This is a rotten pic, but it does show the new start lever and parking brake lever:

 

http://www.askbob.aero/sites/default/files/images/737Max.png

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But that does look like a 737MAX and not an NG.

 

Dave

You're correct, but this is where the lines start to blur. The changes are starting on the late-model NGs.

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As soon as I can work out how to post pics via my iPhone, I'll post them. I'm also waiting on a (current) ng pic that documents the start levers changes.

 

To describe them briefly, it looks like a Boeing grey metal plate bolted on to the area where the start levers are and 2 switches similar to the 777 on it. Almost plug and play.

Ok, here are the links to my photobox.

 

Wing root-

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m31/moosehead1984/Mobile%20Uploads/E363C9C1-54E9-49A6-A0B0-61DCADF545CE_zpsoj7xcm1r.png

 

10% taxi light power-

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m31/moosehead1984/Mobile%20Uploads/8ACB1A1C-6B65-4DA2-A39F-4638F7951FD9_zpsrn7kx1sg.png

 

100% light-

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m31/moosehead1984/Mobile%20Uploads/5DD7AE7D-3D4A-4284-98B4-6CB2643EE19C_zpsnm4r2yk3.png

 

Pic credits to a NG captain friend of mine.

 

Dan

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This is the first MAX under assembly, but the start levers and so forth that are making their way into current NGX, can clearly be seen:

 

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I took a tour of the 737 plant about 2 months ago and there were in fact LED lights in the wing root on all the new ones. I might have a picture or two somewhere. I know they were not only on the MAX though, (because I was able to see the only MAX being produced). 

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Also: full names - first and last - in the forum, please.

Apparently Spin737 and Moosehead either can't follow this instruction or choose not to for some reason.

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Apparently Spin737 and Moosehead either can't follow this instruction or choose not to for some reason.

Sorry, I'm posting from my phone.

 

But if it makes you happy, see below.

 

I didn't realise such a minor matter would offend some.

 

Odd when all I was doing was to try and post an interesting update.

 

DAN WADE

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Hi guys, a bit more detailed information regarding the updated -800 rolling off the plant at Renton, most have already been mentioned!
 
- LED Landing, Taxi, Runway Turnoff Lights (LTRTL) which implements LED's on the -800's exterior lighting system. The overhead panel no longer has the Retractable Landing Lights or Nose Gear Taxi Light switches.
 
LTRTL.jpg​- Updated the position of the Engine Start Levers and as Spin 737 mentioned, the new levers also have an integral fire warning light to decrease the likelihood of inadvertently shutting down the wrong engine during an engine fire.
 
They've also moved the Landing Gear Warning Cutout switch and installed a new parking brake lever.
 
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cutout.jpg 
 
Our newest -800's also have a new weather radar system, whether this is fitted on all new NG's I have no idea. It's called the Honeywell IntuVue RDR-4000 Weather Radar which brings a lots of new changes. In a VERY brief nutshell operationally it allows each crew member to independently check weather at different flight levels on their respective ND's in manual mode and shows sig-wx without clutter up to 320nm away
 
 
wx.jpg
 
 
They've also updated the Cabin Pressurization Panel, the FLT and ALT windows have increased in size and are now lit white as opposed to the amber tinge it previously had. I'll take a photo when I next see it.

There has been loads of other subtle changes to many systems, our FMC's for example no longer have the rotation brightness control but a rocker type switch.

 

These are the most obvious changes to our newest editions to the NG fleet anyway.

 

Hope the info helped! ​​

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Sorry, I'm posting from my phone.

 

But if it makes you happy, see below.

 

I didn't realise such a minor matter would offend some.

 

Odd when all I was doing was to try and post an interesting update.

 

DAN WADE

Even if you post from your phone your signature still appears (you just won't see it). Easy enough to add your surname to your first name in that.

 

Not signing is not offensive, it's just a rule we all have to comply with. I suppose Jim was pointing out that it's not applied uniformly. Some regular posters never get called on it. However if members like Matt feel they can't comply it would be a very great shame to lose their input over it. Personally, I think using your first name is more than sufficient to enable people to talk in a friendly way.

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The people who cry about signatures are the online version of the people who shout "On Guard!" whenever someone transmits on 121.5.

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I know at least at American the nose wheel taxi lights were unreliable. They had some last as few as two flights. They are retrofitting LED taxi lights in the nose gear.

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Those screens looks sooo sexy...

PMDG... Time for update?? :)

 

Also since we are on topic of possible new content any chance for 737-700C version? Really missing a cargo in the 737 lineup (that main cargo door or the lack of it makes the whole difference :) )
It would be a great adittion to the 600/700 expansion.

 

Paul Grochowski

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Not signing is not offensive, it's just a rule we all have to comply with. I suppose Jim was pointing out that it's not applied uniformly. Some regular posters never get called on it.

Exactly.

The people who cry about signatures are the online version of the people who shout "On Guard!" whenever someone transmits on 121.5.

Maybe in some cases but not the case for me.

 

If we have a rule to start with, then Kyle asks for the rule to be compiled with and it's not, which was the case at first with Spin737 and Moosehead, then it bothers me because I view it as being disrespectful to the host. That's all, nothing else.

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Those screens looks sooo sexy...

PMDG... Time for update?? :)

 

Also since we are on topic of possible new content any chance for 737-700C version? Really missing a cargo in the 737 lineup (that main cargo door or the lack of it makes the whole difference :) )

It would be a great adittion to the 600/700 expansion.

 

Paul Grochowski

 

I think if they were to do the MAX, it would either be a whole new product or a paid expansion pack.

 

There are the BBJ versions to think about as well, and the -900ER.

 

Would be nice to see this as the next project after the 747v2 is all done.

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The people who cry about signatures are the online version of the people who shout "On Guard!" whenever someone transmits on 121.5.

I love Guard #####! - David Lee

 

edit wont let me say the old National Socialists party name! Ha.

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I think if they were to do the MAX, it would either be a whole new product or a paid expansion pack.

 

There are the BBJ versions to think about as well, and the -900ER.

 

Would be nice to see this as the next project after the 747v2 is all done.

 

Yeah that was MAX 110% plus I wonder how would FSX cope with all the information on the "glass".

As for BBJ do they have some specifics in fuselage apart from some of them (that's what I've read) having larger wing?

 

In avsim library you can use keyword "pmdg business" and you get nice BBJ repaints from 600 to 900

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Yeah that was MAX 110% plus I wonder how would FSX cope with all the information on the "glass".

As for BBJ do they have some specifics in fuselage apart from some of them (that's what I've read) having larger wing?

 

In avsim library you can use keyword "pmdg business" and you get nice BBJ repaints from 600 to 900

 

The original 737BBJ1 based off the 737-700 fuselage with the -800 wing, technically the wing is the same size physically but has slightly thicker gauge skin and some other structural reinforcing.

 

You wouldn't notice a difference externally. For PMDG, it would involve modelling the aux fuel tanks etc etc, not so much changes on the external model.

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Im going to have a lof of fun flying the MAX around

 

Where do you intend to purchase the 737 MAX?

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