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Hi Guys,

 

I'm thinking of purchasing the FF767-300ER however as I've never really used X-Plane before so i don't know much about it, however i'd like to know how it compares to something like the Level D 767 systems wise.

 

All opinions welcome.

 

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Hi Guys,

 

I'm thinking of purchasing the FF767-300ER however as I've never really used X-Plane before so i don't know much about it, however i'd like to know how it compares to something like the Level D 767 systems wise.

 

All opinions welcome.

 

Regards

Hello Damien,

 

There is a review in the Avsim review library

 

http://www.avsim.com/index.php/_/reviews/aircraft/review-boeing-767-300er-by-flightfactor-for-x-r3382

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Thanks Will,

 

I've sen that review already. I wanted some other opinions before I take the plunge. It's almost as expensive as the PMDG stuff so wanted to be sure before I get it.

 

Its the best Flightfactor product available. Its a more refined upgraded and stable FF757. It is no pmdg though. Still very enjoyable plane though.

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Thanks Will,

 

I've sen that review already. I wanted some other opinions before I take the plunge. It's almost as expensive as the PMDG stuff so wanted to be sure before I get it.

Ah, got you!

 

Personally, would say it is not as polished a product as the PMDG stable...however...it does have some features even PMDG doesnt have in FSX...it is a funny game of give and take really, but it is really enjoyable, good graphics, great performance in my PC, and the developer is working on a patch to refine the VNAV logic and also their Extended pack, which should include the freighter as well as other engine models.

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Have they changed that weird thing with the air stairs coming to R1 instead of L1 ? Also in watching some videos of the 757 and the 767 they're a few annoyances I've noticed.

 

My intention was to use this A/C for the CTP event on April 2nd. 

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I am also considering buying it, and asked about it over on x-plane.org. The context is different, as I asked for a compare/contrast between it and the Rotatesim MD-80, but I'm sure there's some info in the thread that could be helpful to you: http://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?showtopic=94507

Rotatesim MD-80 does not model the aircraft accurately. The FF767 is awesome. Currently the best 767 available for any platform and the best aircraft for Xplane

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Rotatesim MD-80 does not model the aircraft accurately. The FF767 is awesome. Currently the best 767 available for any platform and the best aircraft for Xplane

 

Would you say it's more of a complexity level of the Airbus X or the Level D 767 ?

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I think its great. Its alot of fun to fly with the mid 80s 90s automation but still things to do. I think it would be near to that of the Level D 767 although its been a long time since flying that one. Certainly the graphics are better, and the systems are quite good, perhaps a little more in depth that Airbus X stuff but not quite PMDG level.

 

Bottom line, there no better 767 right now on any platform than this one. Too bad it cant be ported over to P3D. Need one really bad there.

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Would you say it's more of a complexity level of the Airbus X or the Level D 767

I would say at the very least it's at par with Level-D 767. If not more advanced. Definitely a better VC. I enjoy it so much I purchased a second copy for my brother as a Christmas gift. I own the Flight Factor 757 and 777.  Both don't compare IMO.  

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Hi Guys,

 

I'm thinking of purchasing the FF767-300ER however as I've never really used X-Plane before so i don't know much about it, however i'd like to know how it compares to something like the Level D 767 systems wise.

 

All opinions welcome.

 

Regards

 

I've written a review for the 767. You can find it here: http://www.simreview.ca/FFSS767/ffss767.html

 

My reviews are written from a consumer point of view so it tends to be more of a "writeup" of my feelings after flying the aircraft, rather than the companies' reviews where you get a lot of screenshots and every feature detailed. That said, it also reflects how I personally feel after getting a hands-on of the cockpit. 

 

Hope it helps! 

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Ok Guys,

 

After going over both reviews again, and again, and yet again. I'm going to get it,..even though i'm still a little worried I guess. I think i'll be taking her across the pond this time around instead of the regulars. I remember countless crossings with the Lonny Payne 757 then the 767 Pilot in command and the Level D 767,..those were the glory days so to speak lol. Wow  i feel old  :sad:  :vava:  But i did prefer that kind of flying.

 

Thanks to each one of you for your input into this topic. I'm kinda hooked on X-Plane at the moment, it performs and looks soooo much better than P3D, and it's got a different "feel" which is quite refreshing.

 

Do you guys have experience with the 757 as well ? How does it stack up ?

 

Also found this smart co-pilot thing. Anyone try it ?

 

Regards

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Do you guys have experience with the 757 as well ? How does it stack up ?

 

I have the FF757 as well, and while its very good and again the best of any platform, it has its quirks and some funny things going on at times. Its still fun to fly, but the FF767 is a whole other level than their previous products. I fly the 757 Freighter for FDX so it gets it done in a decent manner. Waiting for the 767 freighter now.

 

What I dont like about Xplane payware is they feel the need to charge for every variant seperatly. Even livery packs are charged even though there is free ones. Like really? A handful of liveries should be included just like payware for FSX P3D aircraft.

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Ok Guys,

 

After going over both reviews again, and again, and yet again. I'm going to get it,..even though i'm still a little worried I guess. I think i'll be taking her across the pond this time around instead of the regulars. I remember countless crossings with the Lonny Payne 757 then the 767 Pilot in command and the Level D 767,..those were the glory days so to speak lol. Wow  i feel old  :sad:  :vava:  But i did prefer that kind of flying.

 

Thanks to each one of you for your input into this topic. I'm kinda hooked on X-Plane at the moment, it performs and looks soooo much better than P3D, and it's got a different "feel" which is quite refreshing.

 

Do you guys have experience with the 757 as well ? How does it stack up ?

 

Also found this smart co-pilot thing. Anyone try it ?

 

Regards

 

 

Hi Damien,

 

I hope you share your opinion once you've flown the FF 767. I also owned the LDS 767 and man... those were the days. It must be the plane I have flown the most hours.

 

Regarding the 757, I think it's flyable, it's enjoyable, but it has some things that bother me and I can't come around them. I've asked in the forums but didn't really get a proper "solution":

- There's apparently no difference between "toe brake" and "parking brake". Whenever I use the toe brakes, I'm really setting the parking brake and the light comes on on the EICAS.

- Turning the yoke causes the rudder to be pushed in. No, this is not a feature of the aircraft and has nothing to do with the yaw damper

- The A/P doesn't seem very smooth at instances. It also doesn't seem to be able to enter a holding pattern from odd angles.

- The cockpit doesn't really "feel" like a 757. This is a subjective opinion of course, but just my general feeling. In this regard the 767 looks much better.

- The EEC won't prevent the engines from overspooling if you jam the throttles full forward

- During a descent, if you bring the throttles to idle you'll get the inflight restrart message on the EICAS.

- The engines are powerful, I know, but in order to fly straight and level and at a constant speed (for example, fly 230kt at 5000ft), I must bring my throttles back to about 15% or else the speed will go up to overspeed in no time. I'm always using the lower 30% of my throttle run in conditions other than takeoff or climb.

 

Also, and this might be X-Plane rather than FF757, the plane bounces up&down and sideways and gets torn around in the air like a paper bag when there's the slightest wind. It doesn't seem very realistic.

During the take-off run sometimes I have to apply FULL rudder deflection to keep it within the runway limits. It's as if the runway was made out of ice.

 

As I said, I like it, it's enjoyable and flyable, but It's not PMDG level.

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Also, and this might be X-Plane rather than FF757, the plane bounces up&down and sideways and gets torn around in the air like a paper bag when there's the slightest wind. It doesn't seem very realistic.

 

This causes me to disable "real weather" at times as it can't be realistic.  If you look at the aircraft from the outside when you notice this, it looks like something being shaken in a bottle of water.

 

It's not just the 767.  It happens in all aircraft occasionally.

 

John

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Ok Guys,

 

After going over both reviews again, and again, and yet again. I'm going to get it,..even though i'm still a little worried I guess. I think i'll be taking her across the pond this time around instead of the regulars. I remember countless crossings with the Lonny Payne 757 then the 767 Pilot in command and the Level D 767,..those were the glory days so to speak lol. Wow  i feel old  :sad:  :vava:  But i did prefer that kind of flying.

 

Thanks to each one of you for your input into this topic. I'm kinda hooked on X-Plane at the moment, it performs and looks soooo much better than P3D, and it's got a different "feel" which is quite refreshing.

 

Do you guys have experience with the 757 as well ? How does it stack up ?

 

Also found this smart co-pilot thing. Anyone try it ?

 

Regards

 

 

If you have never used X-Plane you will have a serious learning curve in getting as comfortable with it as you are with FSX or P3D.  That would probably be your biggest hurdle and not the 767. 

For X-Plane, the 767 is spectacular. In some respects even better that sims in FSX or P3D.

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Hello again,

 

Took the plunge and bought the 767. Before I go any further does anyone know if the developer can be found on the AVSIM forums ? The X-Plane.org forums are down atm. I must admit the 767 is a very nice aircraft and the best that I've flown in X-Plane, However there are some things I need to point out to the developer regarding the AFDS, the function of the modes and the behavior associated with them under certain circumstances. 

 

They're also a few annoyances (in my opinion) of these little helper tidbits the developer added that i'd honestly like to see gone or at least have the option of turning them off. I understand the thought behind it but i'd prefer the option on if i need that help or not because for me it actually takes away from the simulation.

 

I currently putting together a list of bugs and inaccuracies I've found so far so i can send them to the developer.

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I picked up the 767 at Christmas with a gift certificate. I also own the 757 & 777 and since owning this bird haven't flown either. It is most enjoyable to fly and it is the most flown aircraft in my hanger.

 

Still really enjoy my A330 and also picked up the E175 for shorter hops. From time to time I also jump in the awesome 737-200 by FlyJSim

 

My real dilemma is given the limited time I seem to have these days is which one do I take out lol

 

I have only been in X-plane for a year but haven't looked back. It just gets better with each update. I posted this comment in another thread but it is so true

 

"I now spend 100% of my time flying and 0% tweaking" 

 

Currently enroute from TNCM to CYYZ in my Air Canada Rouge 767 (This is a real world flight)

 

Happy Days :)

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Well, I've had some more time to "poke at it" and see what or how it does and i'm genuinely impressed. It's very good. I can point out quite a few "refinements" but it's actually very good. They're some bugs that need to be fixed yes,..but so far so good. I like it. 

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Well, I've had some more time to "poke at it" and see what or how it does and i'm genuinely impressed. It's very good. I can point out quite a few "refinements" but it's actually very good. They're some bugs that need to be fixed yes,..but so far so good. I like it. 

 

How does it compare with the LDS 767 systems-wise?

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If you have never used X-Plane you will have a serious learning curve in getting as comfortable with it as you are with FSX or P3D.  That would probably be your biggest hurdle and not the 767. 

For X-Plane, the 767 is spectacular. In some respects even better that sims in FSX or P3D.

The 1 and only thing I don't like do much about the xplane interface it the somewhat lack of details when start a flight. I'd like to choose the starting point instead of having to actually start then choose where to start..kinda like putting the cart before the horse type thing.

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The 1 and only thing I don't like do much about the xplane interface it the somewhat lack of details when start a flight. I'd like to choose the starting point instead of having to actually start then choose where to start..kinda like putting the cart before the horse type thing.

You mean like choosing a ramp starting point? After loading the aircraft, simply use the 'select global airport' option, and you can select a gate/ramp/runway from there. Alternatively, you can move your aircraft manually using the Local Map. 

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