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Hey folks,

 

Sigh, no matter how I set up my range of detail (which is not set to very high), I get this issue where the buildings near me are being rendered and the buildings far from me (a little far not 100km away) are not rendered (attached is a picture depicting the issue)

what can I do to make it render the autogen a bit more realistically ?

 

dkUT0FX.jpg

 

Thanks for your help

 

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What are those vertical stripes ??

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Sorry, but that is the extent of the Level of Detail Radius for Autogen

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What are those vertical stripes ??

 

antennas. 

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is this version 3.2?  i have seen a few posts about this issue that seems to be worse in this version

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I think the autogen draw distance may be even worse for trees.

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No. You don't have to tweak the cfg.

The "Fiberframefraction-tweak" can causes blurries like yours.

Post your settings please.

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Why?

[BUFFERPOOLS]
UsePools=1
PoolSize=5000000

This is completely useless. With your graphics cards, even on FSX, this should be UsePools=0.

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Ok. This is not the original cfg.

Did you have used the addon manager tool? There are some useless tweaks in your cfg.

Delete your cfg. And let the sim make a new again.

For coreassignement take better a tool like easytool.

Jobsheduler is not really a solution.

P3D runns verry well out of the box.

Highmemfix is also useless in P3d since V.2

Your cfg is full of tweaks ;)

Why you say you dont't have tweak it? :)

I see there is the FS Dreamteam part in your cfg.

Thats the proof, that you used the addonmanager tool from your P3D menu.

When you use the Addonmanager tool, it tweaks your hole cfg.

 

Copy paste the FS dreamteam section in your new cfg. that was createt from P3D:

 

[FSDREAMTEAM]

AntiPopUp=30

ViewOptimization=1

AltitudeCull=1

GroundTraffic=1

 

 

Then you have only the tweaks that the FS dreamteam airports need to displayed without pop up the aorports.

And than: Dont run again the Tool from the Addonmanager.

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Copy paste the FS dreamteam section in your new cfg. that was createt from P3D:

[FSDREAMTEAM]
AntiPopUp=30
ViewOptimization=1
AltitudeCull=1
GroundTraffic=1


Then you have only the tweaks that the FS dreamteam airports need to displayed without pop up the aorports.
And than: Dont run again the Tool from the Addonmanager.

 

He did not mention anything about using FSDT airports? Those tweaks will do nothing for him if he doesn't have problems with FSDT specific airports/scenery.

 

 

 


For coreassignement take better a tool like easytool.
Jobsheduler is not really a solution.

 

Don't know what to say about this. It's been proven time and again that setting an AM helps in many ways. And using an external tool to set AM will only mess up the threading process of P3D.

 

 

All that being said, I've done some extensive testing with 3.2 and unfortunately the problem does not seem to lie within settings or  tweaks. It seems like a coding issue or something along the line. Same settings in 3.1 and no blurries or popping but they exist in 3.2.

 

See my thread "Blurries with high autogen" (although I've confirmed its not exclusive to high autogen only).

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All this cfg. Tweaks in his cfg. Comes from the addonmanager tool that you can run from the dropdownmenu in P3D.

when you run it.

Things like bufferpool, jobsheduler or how many trees per cell are the entries from this tool.

I know it because i have tried the addonmanager.

I would only the popup and the other tweaks that for de fsdreamteam scenery. Then i saw that all tweaks er in my cfg. (Bufferpools, trees per cell etc.)

I also tried the jobsheduler.

With an extra tool i have the better allotment.

Btw. I dont have any blurries. Neither in 3.1 nor in 3.2

And with his 980 card, this should not occurence.

 

And i know, that he nothing has said about FSDreamteam airports.

But i saw this tweaks in his cfg. Some problems would be createt without to know about it.

 

Im must say sorry. It is the addonmanager tool from virtuali.

http://www.avsim.com/pages/0910/FSDreamteam/add-on-manger.jpg

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What are those vertical stripes ??

i dont know, cell towers ?

antennas.

 

thats a clear indication of defected terrain.cfg file!

 

 

All that being said, I've done some extensive testing with 3.2 and unfortunately the problem does not seem to lie within settings or  tweaks. It seems like a coding issue or something along the line.

that is not very far from the truth atm,

there is at least one clear landclass issue there,

the autogen radius is not an issue though; it is just how 3.2 is currently rendering autogen bubble (and it is likely hard coded),

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Try deleting your cfg folder and your shaders folder and restart.

 

See if that helps

 

If not ,try reinstalling p3d no addons or tweaks.

 

 

Cheers

Mike

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Try deleting your cfg folder and your shaders folder and restart.

close to what my advice would be as well; only...

first in P3D you don't have two terrain.cfg; there is only one!!!

 

it is unknown if he has external addons entries in his current terrain.cfg,

if those do exist they will not be restored if the current is deleted and restored via repair,

 

currently you can purge cache; but if your terrain cfg is defected (which it clearly is) it will do no good as this will come back,

(technically speaking i believe these are modeling pins you shouldn't be seeing in the first place,)

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thats a clear indication of defected terrain.cfg file!

 

Those are antennas. There's quite a lot of them in several areas across the US.

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Those are antennas. There's quite a lot of them in several areas across the US.

 

I got my license in South Florida, and flew past the TV towers in North Dade all the time. These same  towers and many others are very clearly shown in P3D. has nothing at all to do with "defected terrain" .....

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He should delete his P3Dcfg. and then we will see if the problem is solved.

All other dicusions about antennas aren't helpful.

Btw. blurries are the problem and not the antennas.

 

Kind regards

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All this cfg. Tweaks in his cfg. Comes from the addonmanager tool that you can run from the dropdownmenu in P3D.

when you run it.

Things like bufferpool, jobsheduler or how many trees per cell are the entries from this tool.

I know it because i have tried the addonmanager.

I would only the popup and the other tweaks that for de fsdreamteam scenery. Then i saw that all tweaks er in my cfg. (Bufferpools, trees per cell etc.)

I also tried the jobsheduler.

With an extra tool i have the better allotment.

Btw. I dont have any blurries. Neither in 3.1 nor in 3.2

And with his 980 card, this should not occurence.

 

And i know, that he nothing has said about FSDreamteam airports.

But i saw this tweaks in his cfg. Some problems would be createt without to know about it.

 

Im must say sorry. It is the addonmanager tool from virtuali.

http://www.avsim.com/pages/0910/FSDreamteam/add-on-manger.jpg

 

I ran into this issue with the add on manager about 7 months ago, where it changed 12 settings in my P3D.cfg file because I hit the save button by mistake when setting up GSX. It took me days to solve my blurry problem which turned out to be the add on manager inserting affinitymask=14 into my cfg file. The blurries I had were unreal, and I was about a second away from a total reinstall of P3D when I discovered the problem. I posted this on the FSDT forum, and the author of FSDT commented on my post and all the problems I had but did nothing to warn users of the potential problem, and I am certain that nothing has changed. If you hit that save button in the add on manager, it will screw up your cfg file inserting about a dozen changes that you might not want. 

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I don't know what you are all going on about.. I see absolutely nothing abnormal in that screenshot. The autogen LOD radius is normal (it's quite small, unfortunately) and the towers/antennae are normal as well. I see no blurries (the screenshot is zoomed in; the distant terrain textures in P3D/FSX always look a bit soft from that distance.)

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All this cfg. Tweaks in his cfg. Comes from the addonmanager tool that you can run from the dropdownmenu in P3D.

when you run it.

Things like bufferpool, jobsheduler or how many trees per cell are the entries from this tool.

I know it because i have tried the addonmanager.

I would only the popup and the other tweaks that for de fsdreamteam scenery. Then i saw that all tweaks er in my cfg. (Bufferpools, trees per cell etc.)

I also tried the jobsheduler.

With an extra tool i have the better allotment.

Btw. I dont have any blurries. Neither in 3.1 nor in 3.2

And with his 980 card, this should not occurence.

And i know, that he nothing has said about FSDreamteam airports.

But i saw this tweaks in his cfg. Some problems would be createt without to know about it.

Im must say sorry. It is the addonmanager tool from virtuali.

http://www.avsim.com/pages/0910/FSDreamteam/add-on-manger.jpg

The better allotment that comes from setting an AM externally is because it is being forced to do so and is not necessarily a good thing. It has been discussed many times that you should not use an external program to set the AM for P3D

 

Also blurries usually come from CPU related settings and issues, nothing to do with his 980 GPU.

 

If the terrain.cfg is corrupted then yes it is relevant to the blurries. But as others said above its probably just antennas.

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