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I tried Windows 10 last summer...

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Didn't like it.  Rolled it back to Windows 7.  Decided since MS has seemed to fix a lot of the issues with Windows 10 and more and more people here are starting to like it and that the driver issues related with FSX and the various addons seems to be fixed.

So..I started to take the plunge to upgrade to Windows 10.  

 

However I can't seem to get past the first reboot screen after it downloads the files and gets me to click on the EULA.  It wants to reboot over and over and resume from there.  I did that at least 20 times and it restarts Windows 7-64 at the exact same spot.  "Windows 10 is ready to install.  Click Restart to begin."

 

Any ideas?  

 

John Bradley

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If you can, you should do a clean install. Upgrade installs are the root of every single Windows 10 problem I've read about and had to deal with myself, working in IT.

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I think the Reboot loop is to do with an Orbx file. If you have Orbx installed you need to delete this particular file.

Do a search on this forum regarding the Orbx file.

 

As the above poster mentioned, I would also recommend a full install of W10

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Thanks, fellas.  I'll download the Windows 10 update files, save on a CD and try later.

 

John Bradley

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The file name is TODO and it will stop the W10 upgrade every time.

There is one dll left behind by AVG anti virus in /windows/system32 if I remember correctly that can also cause the update to fail.

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As per Glynn s post if youhave Orbx Scenery

 

Goto

 

C:\Users\"username"\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Orbx

 

Check for the file called TODO, this stopped my install failed at the very end . Removed the file and all ok

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I haven't had a problem with this to date. I just keep closing the Windows 10 update "suggestion" window, and nothing ever happens. If it does decide to go ahead and install Windows 10 without my permission........God help Microsoft :wink:

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I did a clean Win 10 install and have no regrets at all.

My partner upgraded from Win 7 and has no end of trouble. 

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I did an upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10, as well as another from 8.1 to 10. No problems at all on either laptops, even though the 8.1 laptop was a Celeron 2GB Ram machine. All working very well with FS2004 & P3D. Loading seems to be a bit faster as well.

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Ok, folks...I did the fresh install of Win 10 and took days to get everything back up and running with FSX.  I have noticed that there are few issues.  Mostly when I close FSX, it tends to crash instead of closing smoothly.

 

Tried my first long-haul flight this afternoon and found I still had a pants-load of work to do.  Such as getting FSBuild to copy to FSX, ASN, PMDG777 among others.

 

Another issue that's been extremely annoying is not being able to put the FSX icon in the tile area.  First of all, the icon didn't show up on the desktop.  had to create a shortcut from the FSX folder.  Then when I tried to tile it, it won't go further.  Finally I gave up and pinned the FSX icon in the task bar.

 

As far as performance goes...its been extremely smooth with the few flights I've done.  I haven't done a long PMDG 777 flight just yet, but plan to tomorrow night.  No stutters.  FSInn loaded up pretty good after a few tweaks.  I have EZDok installed and still messing with that.

 

As with every clean install, it can be a PITA getting everything back up to snuff from before.  Oh...I just remembered...While I was on the ground at KJFK with a lot of traffic, for the first time in a long time, I was able to see the WOI a/c while logged to VATSIM.  That happened rarely with Win7-64 and I didn't worry too much about it.

 

Thanks for the advice, guys...

 

John Bradley

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I was going through the same problem when trying to update from Win 7 to 10, it kept rebooting and restoring back to Windows 7. I even tried deleting that TODO file that OrbX leaves behind and still didn't fix the problem. So I ended up having to clean install Windows 10. It was a huge PITA, took me almost a week to get everything back up, but it was worth the trouble.

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Final followup:

After a week of reinstalling everything...PMDG, ASN, FSBuild, GSX, London, and various freeware sceneries, I finally sat down to do my first VATSIM flight.

 

Started FSX...then crash to desktop. Over and over and over.

 

Took a few days of research and to realize the uiautomationcore.dll file needed to be moved to the root directory.  Only problem is that the Win10's version is crap for FSX.  I finally found a Vista version out there and placed into the FSX rood directory.  Ever since then...no crashes to desktop.

 

So far after a few test flights with the PMDG 777, its been seamless.  Still working on my EZDok settings, but I feel confident that its going to work out fine after all under Windows 10.

 

John Bradley

AAL132

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I did a clean Win 10 install and have no regrets at all.

My partner upgraded from Win 7 and has no end of trouble. 

I removed the Orbx TODO file before attempting upgrade. Had a great upgrade with no bad issues.  All software and hardware runs the same as though still under W7.  Clean install was not needed for success in my conversion.

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I did the upgrade using the downloaded Windows Media Tool, NOT the toolbar icon that gave me endless hassles to get working.

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I did the upgrade using the downloaded Windows Media Tool, NOT the toolbar icon that gave me endless hassles to get working.

I allowed the two Windows Update files, the one that parses your system, to make sure it is 100 percent compatible in hardware and software, and the 'Get Windows 10' task bar, to install on my system. When I was ready, I fired up that...chose to upgrade, and wham-bam....one hour later, I was rocking and rolling....problem free. :)

 

When I first got to my W10 Desktop, I noticed that W10 deletes the Get Windows Task Bar update, as it is then redundant. This truly is well thought out. As for reporting back to the Empire telemetry, I have that all shut down. The only telemetry that I have allowed to execute is the live, in real time, system optimizing and grooming, software and hardware, with drivers that I am so totally gung-ho about. This is a truly very powerful feature to give you at all times, the optimum experience.  It is not in my view, about 'losing' control....but in fact, about allowing a time-consuming and diverting system maintenance, to be on-going, and fully automatic for the User. I would never shut this down, a most powerful and progressive O.S. feature to date!

 

All in all, Wobbie, I'm having a stellar experience of usage.

 

Mitch

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Mitch,did you only remove the TODO file before upgrading,or something else?

I`m not sure,if i should upgrade or keep W7

Mike

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Mitch,did you only remove the TODO file before upgrading,or something else?

I`m not sure,if i should upgrade or keep W7

Mike

Just removed the TODO, Mike.  Truly...in all parameters, W10 kicks W7's butt. I just finished a flight with XPX.50b7, and all your sims will run, and all their supporting weather, texture, blah, blah, will run/support them as well.

 

Mike, when your click on ASN, and other programs for the first time, you will see that they will auto-register again..and then you are good to go. P3D v2.4 had me re-enter my license, but funny that P3d v3.2.3 did not.  Go figure, lol. ASN, Active Sky Evo, both auto-registered as I was downloading weather.

 

Mike..everything that ran under W7 on my system, is running great under W10.  Nothing was locked out, or refused to run.  If you have a Creative Soundblaster sound card, after your W10 upgrade, merely go to www.creative.com and look under support for your card, and if my generations old, card had a full W10 update suite, with proper drivers...your's will too, etc.

 

There is not one thing (other than my having to update my Creative Soundblaster to their W10 driver support) I had to do, other than sit back and watch the show.  I do suggest strongly, that you attach all your equipment, and have it all turned on, as you start the W10 download and installation. Do this...and you will have no driver memory conflicts...and W10 will see your equipment and download/install the proper drivers for such, as part of the installation routine.

 

Have fun..and I'm sure you will be thrilled with all the performance increases you will undoubtedly see/enjoy.

 

Mike, not ONE regret in upgrading, post installation. Not one! :hi:

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Thank you,Mitch.

I have also read your other post here where you mentioned to plug in all your peripherials---HDD`s,controllers etc the last time before you shut down W7.

Did you upgrade from an USB-Stick?

Mike

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Being the clock is ticking down for the freebie upgrade I upgraded my an 6 year old laptop and messed with it a few months. Liked Win10 so much that I upgraded my AIO PC and now my FS PC and my Home entertainment PC.  All were upgrades - no clean installs and I must say I am impressed on how well everything works from the git-go.

 

Of course I have made full partition backups of Win7 all just in case  and now making backups of Win10.  P3D runs smooth and all my apps tested looking good.  Just one Python bat file that I need to investigate so not bad considering.

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Thank you,Mitch.

I have also read your other post here where you mentioned to plug in all your peripherials---HDD`s,controllers etc the last time before you shut down W7.

Did you upgrade from an USB-Stick?

Mike

No Mike, what I did, was allow Windows Update to download the two update files, that one, parses your system to make sure it is 100 compatible, and the other, the Task Bar 'Get Window Icon' that will start the whole process.  After about 12 update files were downloaded and ran (those two amongst the 12), I then turned on my printer, scanner, all my WD MyBooks HD's, plugged in my three USB sticks into their respective USB 2 and USB 3 ports, and after seeing all the drivers load in...did a restart of Windows 7.

 

After I achieved my W7 Desktop once more, with all my equipment active, loaded and available to the system, did I then click on the Get Windows 10 and pressed Update Now, or whatever it says to start the process.  Then...sat back...watched all that I chronicled in my post (blog sort of, lol) and about an hour later, was at my new W10 Desktop, with everything as it was while displayed under W7.  

 

I then set about accessing all my hardware, which was still powered up, or plugged in...and after seeing all became responsive, shut down W10. I turned off my printer, scanner, unplugged my USB sticks, turned off my WD My Books...and then started up the computer once more. 

 

At the Desktop, I started to methodically run each and every flight sim, and its associated support programs, weather, texture, Orbx...and all not only ran..but ran much faster than ever under W7.  I then fanned out to my other utility software and in doing that, noticed that my Creative programs that interact with my SoundBlaster would open, but say they could not find the installed sound card.  I then knew what was going on...it was compatible drivers. I visited Creative's site....downloaded my part's W10 driver and program suite...and after a reboot, all was as before under W7.

 

So...it is quite painless...not the dreaded some software works...some does not...hit and miss.  Other than having to update my Creative suite...EVERYTHING (hardware and software) worked...and opened and closed, ran sub-routines much faster than W7.  Windows SNAP open and closed, it appears...very fast.  There are no negatives, only winning output and conclusions.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Mitch

Being the clock is ticking down for the freebie upgrade I upgraded my an 6 year old laptop and messed with it a few months. Liked Win10 so much that I upgraded my AIO PC and now my FS PC and my Home entertainment PC.  All were upgrades - no clean installs and I must say I am impressed on how well everything works from the git-go.

 

Of course I have made full partition backups of Win7 all just in case  and now making backups of Win10.  P3D runs smooth and all my apps tested looking good.  Just one Python bat file that I need to investigate so not bad considering.

Totally agree. Update, and no clean install needed.  The whole process took just less than an hour or so.That has been my experience in this.  I'm not going back...for frankly, there is no performance, or software/hardware need to...and I now move forward with W10...:)))))   Win, win, and win, Clutch, as you have already experienced!

 

Cheers

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Thanks Mitch.

But i still don`t know........

Have read about so much trouble with W10 and in the end i have weeks of work to get all running again.

Have to think about it,one week time to decide.

Mike

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Thanks Mitch.

But i still don`t know........

Have read about so much trouble with W10 and in the end i have weeks of work to get all running again.

Have to think about it,one week time to decide.

Mike

Mike, It's all about the personal comfort zone.  I knew I would be going to it...and so better sooner, (and free!) than later.  Deal with any conflags...but there were none. Just a great decision to act on my part.  :)  I hooked in...and don't need to think any more about the coming 29th....  I read all the wicked-witch-of-the-west regarding W10 for the last year, too...and found nothing in actual use, to come close to the hyperbole-of-doom.  I found nothing at all, in fact... :hi: ...well, except incredible performance from my system, and my sim software in general.  THAT, ...I did find.

 

In fact...as regards my flight simulation...it was the best decision of the last 5 years, LOL!

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Its turned into a fiasco for real

 

Tempted to delete the WIn10 and reinstall!

 

Turns out that when I'm doing a flight with the PMDG 777 with ASN, FSInn, and VAFS...after 45 minutes or so into the flight, it starts freezing for up to 15 seconds then resume for only 5-10 seconds and freeze up again.

 

Unless there is some simple way to fix this, I'm afraid I'm going to be on Windows 7 for good.

 

Any ideas where I can search for this problem?

 

John Bradley 

AAL132

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Its turned into a fiasco for real

 

Tempted to delete the WIn10 and reinstall!

 

Turns out that when I'm doing a flight with the PMDG 777 with ASN, FSInn, and VAFS...after 45 minutes or so into the flight, it starts freezing for up to 15 seconds then resume for only 5-10 seconds and freeze up again.

 

Unless there is some simple way to fix this, I'm afraid I'm going to be on Windows 7 for good.

 

Any ideas where I can search for this problem?

 

John Bradley 

AAL132

That actually had nothing of itself to do with W10.  I had that with W7, and XP.  It's GPU exhaustion.  Another of that symptom, is that all screen animation freezes, but you can still hear sim sounds.

 

Others have said that it is having the H.D. Audio portion of any display suite installed.  I actually can't remember what I did to end that...but I did..and I have never seen it happen again.  Not with W7, or with W10.  You have to do some more research...but it is a driver/GPU thing...and not the system the GPU or driver is running under.

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Its turned into a fiasco for real



Tempted to delete the WIn10 and reinstall!

 

No need to delete W10 to get windows 7 back, the roll back feature in W10 works perfectly you will be back in windows 7 in minutes.

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