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This is a bit of advertising, I'm sorry, but I'm very excited about this tool, that I want to share:

 

WAMA - Where Are My Aircraft was released in simMarket.


 

 

Now you can see all your addons where they have been parked in the last position you have used them.

So, you can now park all your lovely A2A GA planes at your homebase and will see them in your simulator waiting for you. Or you are a billionaire and collect your Connie and B17, T6 and so on at Salzburg Red Bull Hangar!

 

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For me, that was a long time dream that comes true now ;)

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Hi Guenter

 

Great idea, long overdue... what do you mean by "when connected, it will etc." In the product page ? Connected to what ?

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Connected to the sim.

WAMA is an exernal application and could be manually or automatically connected to the sim.

 

Not connected means, that you do not see your parked AI Addons

 

 

 

It's cool to see one of my new UPS 747 in EDDF at the cargo gate, when I depart with my 747 Pax version ;)

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*ahem* VAAS

 

Imagine loading a pmdg 777 and 747 in one airport. OOM time.

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This is a bit of advertising, I'm sorry, but I'm very excited about this tool, that I want to share:
 
WAMA - Where Are My Aircraft was released in simMarket.
 
 
Now you can see all your addons where they have been parked in the last position you have used them.
So, you can now park all your lovely A2A GA planes at your homebase and will see them in your simulator waiting for you. Or you are a billionaire and collect your Connie and B17, T6 and so on at Salzburg Red Bull Hangar!
 
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For me, that was a long time dream that comes true now ;)

 

 

Discover it this morning at SimMarket. It really looks interesting.

Cheers, Ed

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*ahem* VAAS

 

Imagine loading a pmdg 777 and 747 in one airport. OOM time.

I hope that forum rules allow me to chime in here...

 

VAS has certainly been a consideration when designing this app.

 

1. The WAMA database has an option to replace any of the saved aircraft with a more lightweight model that looks the same. So if you have a fleet of PMDG aircraft, you can replace those models with, for example, their WOAI/MT6/UT2/whatever counterparts (= low poly but same livery).

 

2. Not all models are in the simulator all the time. WAMA keeps track of your position, and it will only load models that you can actually see and remove those that are too far away.

 

3. Only the external models are used for depiction. So the memory footprint would depend on the 3D model and the textures alone. Without the VC and its myriad of tiny switches, knobs and displays - and without the systems logic - the VAS impact isn't too bad. YMMV

 

Edit: Still, it would be a good idea to start your sim with a default/leightweight model when you plan to walk between your collection. Orbx Bob or the Lorby Camera Pod would be a good choice (the pod is available as a free download on the Lorby website, and BOB is freeware too AFAIK).

 

A note to P3D users: avoid starting your sim using the Avatar as your primary vehicle. There is an "oddity" in P3D; when using the Avatar not all SimConnect functions are permitted - because the Avatar doesn't support them. So every SimConnect client (like WAMA) is in trouble when trying to make use of those functions. I have posted this issue on the LM forums, but I am not sure if this can be resolved.

As a workaround, always use one of the default aircraft to start the sim - then you can switch to the Avatar without problems (=select the Avatar as your own vehicle, do not only switch to Avatar mode - the difference is, that the first option removes the aircraft that you started with, and that you don't need anyway).

 

Best regards

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I hope that forum rules allow me to chime in here...

 

VAS has certainly been a consideration when designing this app.

 

1. The WAMA database has an option to replace any of the saved aircraft with a more lightweight model that looks the same. So if you have a fleet of PMDG aircraft, you can replace those models with, for example, their WOAI/MT6/UT2/whatever counterparts (= low poly but same livery).

 

2. Not all models are in the simulator all the time. WAMA keeps track of your position, and it will only load models that you can actually see and remove those that are too far away.

 

3. Only the external models are used for depiction. So the memory footprint would depend on the 3D model and the textures alone. Without the VC and its myriad of tiny switches, knobs and displays - and without the systems logic - the VAS impact isn't too bad. YMMV

 

Edit: Still, it would be a good idea to start your sim with a default/leightweight model when you plan to walk between your collection. Orbx Bob or the Lorby Camera Pod would be a good choice (the pod is available as a free download on the Lorby website, and BOB is freeware too AFAIK).

 

A note to P3D users: avoid starting your sim using the Avatar as your primary vehicle. There is an "oddity" in P3D; when using the Avatar not all SimConnect functions are permitted - because the Avatar doesn't support them. So every SimConnect client (like WAMA) is in trouble when trying to make use of those functions. I have posted this issue on the LM forums, but I am not sure if this can be resolved.

As a workaround, always use one of the default aircraft to start the sim - then you can switch to the Avatar without problems (=select the Avatar as your own vehicle, do not only switch to Avatar mode - the difference is, that the first option removes the aircraft that you started with, and that you don't need anyway).

 

Best regards

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Looks awesome. Congrats on release. Question...

 

Is the addon always enabled? Or do I have to turn it on every time I start my sim? Can I only view my aircraft "within" the addon, or will the other aircraft always appear when I depart or arrive at an airport? If I fly 300nm to an airport, and I have another plane parked there, will it appear there when I land?

 

I use Air Hauler 2 quite often, and I park all of my charter planes at my home base after returning from a job. So if I load my sim, all of my planes will appear there? I assume I will have to park them in different spots in the same area.

 

Sorry I just asked the same question 6 different way. Just wanted to be clear...

 

 

Thanks!

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It's probably just me, but I really can't see the use for this programme. Why would I care to see my aircraft in an airport? Is it all my aircrafts in my simobjects hangar I can see or only the last one I flew in? Let's say I always fly the cessna 172 from / to different airports, will I then only see the Cessna or what? An as I use ai traffic in my scenery, why would I want to see the cessna parked between heavies in ie. EHAM?  I would like to see you make a video explaining what excactly the programme is for, cause I don't get it.

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why would I want to see the cessna parked between heavies in ie. EHAM? 

 

You would only see your Cessna in between heavies if you parked your Cessna at a commercial terminal. 

 

I see why it may not add to your experience. I see it adding a great deal of immersion for Air Hauler users though. 

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Is the addon always enabled?:

A: no, its an external EXE. You could start it also via the EXE.xml (you have to add this manually) or with simStarter as I do.

 

 

Can I only view my aircraft "within" the addon, or will the other aircraft always appear when I depart or arrive at an airport?

A: I do not fully understand you here, sorry. When WAMA is started, it generates from its database all saved/parked aircraft within a certain range around you. Other AI Traffic is also visible (e.g. MyTraffic).

 

 

 If I fly 300nm to an airport, and I have another plane parked there, will it appear there when I land?

A: Yes, thats exactly how it works. It does not pop-up, I don't know the range, but it is outside your visibility. But to save ressources it is deleted outside that bubble.

 

 

So if I load my sim, all of my planes will appear there? I assume I will have to park them in different spots in the same area.

A: Yes, all planes you have been using in earlier flights. WAMA does autosave the position (triggered by parking brake) or you could use a button. It is then saved in the WAMA database.

And of course, you have to choose different parking locations. But you could park really close together, if needed.

 

 

 

btw. I'm not the developer, just a happy user whos dream is fullfilled after many years ... ;)


@ Jorn

 

head over to simMarket and have a look at the promo video

 

It is surely not useful to everybody. And of course you will not park your Cessna at the airliners gates. And if you only fly one single addon, then it is completely useless for you.

 

But in my case I have several A2A GA planes (and propliner) and Q400, PMDG stuff etc. and all in different liveries. And I'm happy to see my planes now parked all over the country in various spots.

 

 

Approaching an airport in a 747 and see a Cessna I have parked a few days before at the GA Terminal as I taxi to my heavy gate is simply nice ;)

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Can you have different paint schemes of the same model parked together?

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Something I really need... better than my wife at showing me all the aircraft (licenses) I have purchased.  LOL

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 If I fly 300nm to an airport, and I have another plane parked there, will it appear there when I land?

A: Yes, thats exactly how it works. It does not pop-up, I don't know the range, but it is outside your visibility. But to save resources it is deleted outside that bubble.

 

Okay that's exactly what I wanted to know. I'm gonna give it a try, as I believe it will add a lot to my Air Hauler experience. The price is very fair, so there is no reason for me not to give it a shot.

 

Will this be on sale at FlightSimStore or FSPilotShop?

 

Thanks!

 

BB

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Can you have different paint schemes of the same model parked together?

Yes

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Cool, I do videos and textures for Golden Age Simulations and would hope I could park all the various paint schemes of the same model at one airport together for video. So looks like I can?

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What if you always start at a new airport?  Or you only fly from one airport (say EGLL) but don't do the return flights, will all of your AI be at the landing airport?   Not sure I understand the point of this one.

 

Oooh - 3999 posts, I better make the next one gold !

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Not sure I understand the point of this one.

 

 

2 things I think - 

 

1 - Photo opportunities.

2 - People like me who fly programs like Air Hauler, where we park and fly missions out of one particular base of operations. Personally I would love to park my aircraft next to the rest of my custom painted fleet when returning from a job. I spent hard-earned money buying those aircraft within Air Hauler - excited to see them waiting for me when I return home.

 

Unfortunately it won't register when my hired pilots move the aircraft. Hmmm.

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Unfortunately it won't register when my hired pilots move the aircraft. Hmmm.

Hi BB,

 

I don't have AH2 so I am just guessing. Isn't that feature (other crews taking aircraft out) something that only happens internally in AH? Or can you actually see those aircraft flying around in the sim?

 

Generally speaking, such a feature is of course possible. It is basically what my AiTracker X is doing, it lets you create any aircraft model that you have as AI and pass along a flightplan. So you could make your other AH aircraft do in the sim what they are doing virtually in AH - but it is up to you, I'm not sure that it could be done automatically (I would have to take a look at AH2, if it is accessible in some way, like automatically generated flightplans etc.) And I would have to add a bit of code to the WAMA app, to handle an aircraft being created as AI that is present in the database too.

 

A simpler solution would be to add a feature to WAMA that temporarily disables database entries, but does not remove them. So you could turn aircraft models on/off manually, without losing that parking position.

 

But TBCH, this is somthing that AH2 should do on its own. AFAIK it is connected to the sim already all the time, so AI traffic handling would be a logical addition.

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Isn't that feature (other crews taking aircraft out) something that only happens internally in AH? Or can you actually see those aircraft flying around in the sim?

 

It is indeed handled internally within AH2. You cannot see the planes flying. In fact, they will fly even when AH2 and the sim are closed. Your pilots (assuming you can afford to pay them) will fly based on routes set for them, or on specific flights assigned to them. They will fly default or 3rd party aircraft that you can afford to purchase within AH2.

 

I would absolutely love to know how to get these 2 addons working together. I envision being able to claim specific parking places at a given airport by barring AI from using them, basically claiming an entire section of the property.

 

As far as I know this kind of feature is not on Slopey's to-do list. 

 

Do yourself a favor and get AH2. It's very deep and gives you more reasons to fly. Scroll down and expand the detailed description here - AH2 Product Page

 

Thanks for your feedback!

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What if you always start at a new airport?  Or you only fly from one airport (say EGLL) but don't do the return flights, will all of your AI be at the landing airport?

 

Yes, if it is useful to you depends of "your style of flying".

I generally fly in germany or nearby europe. Mainly from and into my hometown airport(s). And I have a base for "historical aircrafts" (A2A) in Salzburg, where they are all parked now at the Red Bull hangar (not enough space unfortunatelly for a Connie AND a B-17 and all the small warbirds ;) )

 

 

Flying around the world on every kontinent or just using a single plane doesn't need WAMA, as you have then rare occasions to see your planes.

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It is indeed handled internally within AH2. You cannot see the planes flying. In fact, they will fly even when AH2 and the sim are closed. Your pilots (assuming you can afford to pay them) will fly based on routes set for them, or on specific flights assigned to them. They will fly default or 3rd party aircraft that you can afford to purchase within AH2.

 

I would absolutely love to know how to get these 2 addons working together. I envision being able to claim specific parking places at a given airport by barring AI from using them, basically claiming an entire section of the property.

 

As far as I know this kind of feature is not on Slopey's to-do list. 

 

Do yourself a favor and get AH2. It's very deep and gives you more reasons to fly. Scroll down and expand the detailed description here - AH2 Product Page

 

Thanks for your feedback!

- Reserving parking space

WAMA does this already to avoid AI being created on an space where you parked your own aircraft. This brings me back to the idea of disabled database entries. Imagine a dialog where you can decide which one of your fleet is currently en route with AH2 - and you uncheck it. So the space is empty, but no AI will be created there either. When the aircraft is back in AH, you re-activate it in the database and the model reappears. This would be relatively easy to implement. Feel free to send me a PM either here or with the contact form on my website, to see if something can be figured out.

 

-Getting AH2

TBH, I don't have the time to use something like that. My flying time is limited to at most 2 hours per week, due to work. I could get AH2 to look at the possibilities of programmatic interaction with WAMA and/or AITX, but I feel like that would be stepping on the AH developers' toes. From my experience with my own addons, I would say that adding full AI capability to AH should be relatively easy. While probably not perfect, IMHO it would add to the immersion factor of AH.

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Günter & Oliver,

 

I like your lateral thinking of tying up the loose ends of actual sims, AI aircraft and Google Earth to produce a more comprehensive immersion. I think that you need to learn more about potentially related software such as AH2 to be able to more accurately position your product.

 

As a B777 flyer who only flies round trips, though, it's not a product for me.

 

Good luck!

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- Reserving parking space

WAMA does this already to avoid AI being created on an space where you parked your own aircraft. This brings me back to the idea of disabled database entries. Imagine a dialog where you can decide which one of your fleet is currently en route with AH2 - and you uncheck it. So the space is empty, but no AI will be created there either. When the aircraft is back in AH, you re-activate it in the database and the model reappears. This would be relatively easy to implement. Feel free to send me a PM either here or with the contact form on my website, to see if something can be figured out.

 

-Getting AH2

TBH, I don't have the time to use something like that. My flying time is limited to at most 2 hours per week, due to work. I could get AH2 to look at the possibilities of programmatic interaction with WAMA and/or AITX, but I feel like that would be stepping on the AH developers' toes. From my experience with my own addons, I would say that adding full AI capability to AH should be relatively easy. While probably not perfect, IMHO it would add to the immersion factor of AH.

 

Thanks much - I will probably contact you after playing around with WAMA for a bit. I am mostly excited about seeing my fleet at KPSP every time I depart or land. Once I get that sorted I will start thinking about how to connect my hired pilots' flights.

 

And I completely understand about not having enough time to sim. I squeeze in about 6 hours per week of flying at night before bed, in between a 60+ hr/day job and 2 kids under the age of 4. I go to P3D for some zen. Of course the weather on the west coast has been abnormally wet lately, and I bare-knuckled an approach at Catalina Island last night - and crashed my A2A Comanche. Not all that relaxing. :P

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