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TFDi 717 tempts me like a wayward woman

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But I know she has bugs. Please, if you own her I would love to hear your prognosis after the resent up date install. Besides a whole different flight deck, FMC for a Boeing man to learn, I'm still worried the bugs would cause me to hanger my 60 bucks. Opinions appreciated.

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It's perfectly flyable and a very nice aircraft... That is unless you are one of those persons that says xx feature doesn't work precisely as I want so it's unflyable and hangared.

Looks like lots of improvements coming down the pipeline to make it even better. Downloading the update right now.

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She gets me hot too...

Oh, and I'm tempted to pick her as well..

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Why is it so easy to imagine Ted in a 3-way...

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Last night's patch definitely fixes a lot of issues and she is perfectly flyable... has been since January.  But man, she can suck some VAS... appears to be even worse with the patch (maybe even surpassing the FSL A320).  As long as you don't take her out to any fancy airports, she should make you happy :biggrin:.

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Wayward woman...?

Tempting but you'll hate yourself afterward? Looks great but is sadly distant and detached? Promises much but provides only the bare minimum? Hope nobody sees you 'flying' it?

Kind of a tortured metaphor perhaps? :biggrin:

I guess I'll have to try the update and see.:happy:

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Will continue passing by on this one. In theory it was officially released back in December 2016, and is still in beta!.

Cheers, Ed

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It's actually very nice and handflies absolutely fantastic. The latest update has definitely ironed out the major bugs and after a quick test flight with the newest version I can see myself spending many hours with it indeed.

 

 

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13 minutes ago, edpatino said:

Will continue passing by on this one. In theory it was officially released back in December 2016, and is still in beta!.

Cheers, Ed

You realize the point of a community opt-in beta, right? The aircraft is not in beta. An update for it is. Look at the Community Test Environment for the Battlefield series, for example. The game has been fully playable for months, but the Community Test Environment is used as a platform for testing new additions before pushing them to all. The same concept applies to the 717. One cannot release a flawless product first try, as no amount of internal testing will find every single bug in every single hardware/software configuration.

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Sorry for disagreeing, but you could call it the way you like, just beta or opt-in beta, but according to a myriad of reports here and in your forums, the "normal" - or the non "opt-in beta" - is still not flyable as a B717 the way it should (lots of FMS issues including ILS approach and descent capabilities, for instance). In my opinion, you would had been better off if you had released this aircraft back in December as an "early release" and not as a presumably finished product.

Good luck, Ed

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8 minutes ago, edpatino said:

Sorry for disagreeing, but you could call it the way you like, just beta or opt-in beta, but according to a myriad of reports here and in your forums, the "normal" - or the non "opt-in beta" - is still not flyable as a B717 the way it should (lots of FMS issues including ILS approach and descent capabilities, for instance). In my opinion, you would had been better off if you had released this aircraft back in December as an "early release" and not as a presumably finished product.

Good luck, Ed

Which would be why the product page and release announcement even stated that we'd be releasing updates over time. The issues you mention are fixed. Whether you choose to install the build that contains those fixes is entirely up to you.

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My two cents. I am madly in love with this plane. I have not experienced any vas issues even though I fly payware CYYZ and KBOS, to name a couple.  Perhaps not being a real world pilot, i could overlook certain technical aspects but otherwise,  it looks great, sounds great and is a blast to handfly. 

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Well, I tried the latest beta.

Not bad. Lots of improvement. Still the slide-show displays occasionally; which I really hate. Didn't notice any VAS issues. It has about the same VAS footprint as my other study sims.

Didn't try the FMS...just a quick fly-around using the 'ready to fly' setup.

Definitely getting there. 

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2 hours ago, edpatino said:

Sorry for disagreeing, but you could call it the way you like, just beta or opt-in beta, but according to a myriad of reports here and in your forums, the "normal" - or the non "opt-in beta" - is still not flyable as a B717 the way it should (lots of FMS issues including ILS approach and descent capabilities, for instance). In my opinion, you would had been better off if you had released this aircraft back in December as an "early release" and not as a presumably finished product.

Good luck, Ed

I see you own a lot of Carenado garbage. They are the kings of unfinished products!

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32 minutes ago, petkez said:

I see you own a lot of Carenado garbage

We'll, not too many, but you're not obliged to buy them anyway :cool:

Cheers, Ed

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2 hours ago, edpatino said:

We'll, not too many, but you're not obliged to buy them anyway :cool:

Cheers, Ed

Everyone  knows  you got  some  thing  against the tfdi717 so  cant  see why you keep posting  your thoughts when ever  a topic  appears  on the tfdi 717, when you havnt  actually  bought  the plane.

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31 minutes ago, pete_auau said:

Everyone  knows  you got  some  thing  against the tfdi717 so  cant  see why you keep posting  your thoughts when ever  a topic  appears  on the tfdi 717, when you havnt  actually  bought  the plane.

You said what I was thinking....I have noticed this.

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I'm on the fence to grab this one as well. But since P3D V4 and FSW are close i guess i'll wait. BTW what is the TFDi position regarding the V4 update?

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5 hours ago, pete_auau said:

Everyone  knows  you got  some  thing  against the tfdi717 so  cant  see why you keep posting  your thoughts when ever  a topic  appears  on the tfdi 717, when you havnt  actually  bought  the plane.

Bingo.  

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Thanks to all for the advice. Still undecided for now but I'm sure the717 is in my future as I think the DC-9 series is one of the most geometrically beautiful aircraft made, and I love her short haul mission. I rode on her many times as a passenger and even in the front office a couple of times on FAM trips as a controller.(DC-9 that is).

I have the Leonardo which is dated and the Cool Sky doesn't function in WD10. Realy want a good study plane from the DC-9 family.

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Hi Vic,

THIS - is what I'm waiting for "Cool Sky doesn't function in WD10" - some stated they have it working - Win10/P3D is a no-go for me...

Regards,

Scott

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19 hours ago, edpatino said:

Will continue passing by on this one. In theory it was officially released back in December 2016, and is still in beta!.

That's quite enough Ed. You've made your decision abundantly clear and there's absolutely no need for you to keep harping on that decision in every single thread where this aircraft is mentioned.

Believe me, no one really cares about your decision, or your reasons for that matter.

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18 hours ago, RichieFly said:

Well, I tried the latest beta.

Not bad. Lots of improvement. Still the slide-show displays occasionally; which I really hate. Didn't notice any VAS issues. It has about the same VAS footprint as my other study sims.

Didn't try the FMS...just a quick fly-around using the 'ready to fly' setup.

Definitely getting there. 

 

Richie, does this issue persist with hardware rendering enabled/disabled in the addon manager?

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7 minutes ago, GameSyns said:

Richie, does this issue persist with hardware rendering enabled/disabled in the addon manager?

I'll check and get back to you.

I can say that it seems to be intermittent, which is better than what I was getting. I believe hardware rendering was on, but I'm not sure. I'll get back to you in awhile.

 

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Tried it with Hardware Accl on and off. This is with P3d using the hardware in my sig.

It was ON before. I tried it with HA off.

I didn't notice the display stuttering. VAS was very good. 

This was hardly a thorough test, so FWIT. The overall performance was OK but not great.

My guess is that HA improves the overall performance but, for me, will introduce the display stuttering from time to time. If this is the case, I'd take intermittent stuttering over overall performance degradation. 

Keep going and good luck. The 717 really is making good strides.

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