Long story short:

Loaded up SNA to try out new PilotEdge plugin.

Taxied to... 19R. 

It was changed to 20R in September of 2014. Taxiways seem ok.

Anyone else finding discrepancies?
 

It's the same default 2006 airport and navdata from FSX.

Ouch.

 

This is a bit disappointing that in version 4, this still hasn't been addressed.  I wonder if it's on the "to do" list?

2 minutes ago, ricka47 said:

This is a bit disappointing that in version 4, this still hasn't been addressed.  I wonder if it's on the "to do" list?

To redo all the 26,000 airports in the database would take years and years. Don't think you will ever see that happen, 

Just now, Bobsk8 said:

To redo all the 26,000 airports in the database would take years and years. Don't think you will ever see that happen, 

It happened in X-Plane.

3 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

To redo all the 26,000 airports in the database would take years and years. Don't think you will ever see that happen, 

Did it take years and years to build it in the first place?

Accurate and up-to date Airport representations are the most important features of a flight sim. How Lockheed managed to not finally tackle a complete overhaul is beyond me.

in the meantime there is a freeware site that provides updates for all that stuff, looks updated for v4 already too.

http://www.aero.sors.fr/navaids3.html 

also a company http://www.fsaerodata.com has one that is based from the navigraph data with monthly updates.

i'm guessing that LM is just going with the easy/cheap solution that there are already ways to solve it out there. as bob said, it's a project just by itself.. and insanely huge project if you talk about updating afcads too. 

i do agree it would be nice to have a refresh of everything though. :)

cheers,-andy crosby

 

 

 

Just now, spesimen said:

in the meantime there is a freeware site that provides updates for all that stuff, looks updated for v4 already too.

http://www.aero.sors.fr/navaids3.html 

also a company http://www.fsaerodata.com has one that is based from the navigraph data with monthly updates.

i'm guessing that LM is just going with the easy/cheap solution that there are already ways to solve it out there. as bob said, it's a project just by iteself.. and insanely huge project if you talk about updating afcads too. 

i do agree it would be nice to have a refresh of everything though. :)

cheers,-andy crosby

 

 

 

They are constantly opening and closing airports, runways, changing runway heading, etc. it is quite a job. http://www.aero.sors.fr/navaids3.html   I  used this when I flew for VA's and it works well, but the signs on the runways will not agree with the runway heading, for instance, 10L and 10 R in KFLL , the signage at the airport will still show 9L and 9R. 

The nav data may be updated but not the runway headings etc. Also it wont change ATC (not that I use that) and from memory there is an issue if you use the flight planner....cant recall if it results in a CTD or something else. Still if you can live with that it is much better than default.

Thanks guys

 

the runway headings do get updated... at least for standard AFCADs like default airports. if it's custom painted texture, not so much.

"LS/Rwy regional updates will correct ILSs, runway identifiers, markers and all embedded NDBs in other regions than Europe. In the US, lightings and PAPIs are also corrected. An automatic installer is provided. Note that each region can be installed separately"

 

that's the advantage to a data-driven source model even if it's not perfect. if you update a generic AFCAD to a new rwy number it should display correctly at the sim, if i'm not mistaken..

cheers,-andy crosby

I would have to agree that it's not asking too much to at least update major airports i.e. KSEA SEQM FAOR.

All 26,000 are not as critical, but should eventually be tended to. 

33 minutes ago, spesimen said:

in the meantime there is a freeware site that provides updates for all that stuff, looks updated for v4 already too.

http://www.aero.sors.fr/navaids3.html 

also a company http://www.fsaerodata.com has one that is based from the navigraph data with monthly updates.

i'm guessing that LM is just going with the easy/cheap solution that there are already ways to solve it out there. as bob said, it's a project just by itself.. and insanely huge project if you talk about updating afcads too. 

i do agree it would be nice to have a refresh of everything though. :)

cheers,-andy crosby

 

 

 

Those two products are not equivalent. Both have updated navaids, but fsaerodata updates all procedures for every default airport. LM has showcased fsaerodata on its website and this is consistent with the LM philosophy. They support the 3rd party developer community rather than adding all these features to the base sim. One can argue with that approach, but LM isn't going to change how it maintains and advances the technology in P3d.

1 hour ago, Bobsk8 said:

To redo all the 26,000 airports in the database would take years and years. Don't think you will ever see that happen, 

A one time update of the information from public data would not take years and years. It's not like Microsoft hand made every airport's runway data originally.