Jim Harnes

iFly 737NG for P3Dv4 Released

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The P3Dv4 version (64-bit) of the iFly 737NG is now available at the Flight 1 iFly 737NG product page.

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Nice will probably pick this up instead of the NGX.  Can't justify the price of the NGX and expansions.  Already bought it once. Not doing it again.

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2 minutes ago, dal330200 said:

You know the upgrade for the NGX is free right?

From FSX? Sure isn't.

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20 minutes ago, mpw8679 said:

Nice will probably pick this up instead of the NGX.  Can't justify the price of the NGX and expansions.  Already bought it once. Not doing it again.

For 30$ more over the ifly737, the PMDG NGX is 200% worth it.. just saying.

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Note that you can download a voucher to discount the price of the P3D V4 version of the iFly 737 if you have previously bought the FSX version, so it effectively means you can upgrade to P3D V4 from FSX for about 30 quid.

I won't deny that the PMDG 737 NG is undoubtedly very cool, but the apart from a collimated HUD, the iFly one does pretty much the same job and gives you all variants of the NG in that one package, whereas if you want numerous variants of the PMDG one, you have to pay a bit more on top of the base package, which is also more expensive, so it is quite a price difference between the two if you are going for several variants.

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13 minutes ago, mpw8679 said:

From FSX? Sure isn't.

Oh you're still in FSX...yeah that's a bit of a price to pay.  But, looking at the pictures and videos of the IFLY, it seems worth the extra money to enjoy the graphics in the NGX.  I don't know about the flight characteristics of the IFLY bird, but the visuals don't look that great.  At least there's a working 737 in v4.  I'm going crazy waiting for PMDG to roll out the update.

Happy flying

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It is running on my sim right now. I am looking into performance though, hopely it won't hurt too much,

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8 minutes ago, CaptainLychock said:

For 30$ more over the ifly737, the PMDG NGX is 200% worth it.. just saying.

200% ? ouch way exaggerated... More like 5% (the PMDG has a few extra fuses you can "turn off') So, not much of a difference. If I really wanted the best 737 NXG sim, then I would buy a $3 million dollar simulator- not a $140.00 one. (just saying)

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Nope,

Am getting a stutterfest. Hurray, bought the upgrade from FSX and this is the treat. Or my CPU is dying...

Strange PMDG 747 runs great and this is like.... stutter, I just hate the word. I guess 1st time refund needed from flight 1

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Was about to pull the trigger on this and then noticed this disclaimer on the Flight1 website:

IMPORTANT - This product is for home / academic use and is not licensed to be used for training, or any professional or commercial use. You can use this product as a basic familiarization aid that introduces you to the aircraft systems in a home / academic environment. If you wish to use this product in a commercial, flight school or academic training / classroom environment, please contact Airliner1 for options.

This is just for P3D Academic? Or am I reading too much into this?

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Just FYI, if you are in the UK and you had the FSX one from Flight 1, if you download the 50 percent discount coupon and apply that, the P3D V4 version works out at about 25 quid, so not too painful a price to get nine variants of the NG in your 64 bit sim. By my reckoning that makes it less than three quid per variant.

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Just now, Chock said:

Just FYI, if you are in the UK and you had the FSX one from Flight 1, if you download the 50 percent discount coupon and apply that, the P3D V4 version works out at about 25 quid, so not too painful a price to get nine variants of the NG in your 64 bit sim.

Sadly FS2 Crew never made the jump to P3D with the iFly 737, so that's a big negative here at least.

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16 minutes ago, dal330200 said:

Oh you're still in FSX...yeah that's a bit of a price to pay.  But, looking at the pictures and videos of the IFLY, it seems worth the extra money to enjoy the graphics in the NGX.  I don't know about the flight characteristics of the IFLY bird, but the visuals don't look that great.  At least there's a working 737 in v4.  I'm going crazy waiting for PMDG to roll out the update.

Happy flying

Ya I'm having NGX withdrawals pretty bad.  I'm hoping they do an update in the future to bring it up to date like the 747.  That aircraft is a masterpiece.  Then I will fork out the money.  

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1 hour ago, Chock said:

 

Note that you can download a voucher to discount the price of the P3D V4 version of the iFly 737 if you have previously bought the FSX version, so it effectively means you can upgrade to P3D V4 from FSX for about 30 quid.

I won't deny that the PMDG 737 NG is undoubtedly very cool, but the apart from a collimated HUD, the iFly one does pretty much the same job and gives you all variants of the NG in that one package, whereas if you want numerous variants of the PMDG one, you have to pay a bit more on top of the base package, which is also more expensive, so it is quite a price difference between the two if you are going for several variants.

 

I haven't flown the FSX iFly since the day the NGX was released. If you're only getting one, spend the extra dollars and go with PMDG - it's a classic.

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58 minutes ago, Twenty6 said:

Was about to pull the trigger on this and then noticed this disclaimer on the Flight1 website:

IMPORTANT - This product is for home / academic use and is not licensed to be used for training, or any professional or commercial use. You can use this product as a basic familiarization aid that introduces you to the aircraft systems in a home / academic environment. If you wish to use this product in a commercial, flight school or academic training / classroom environment, please contact Airliner1 for options.

This is just for P3D Academic? Or am I reading too much into this?

I think your reading too much into it, it's just a standard legal disclaimer.

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1 hour ago, CaptainLychock said:

For 30$ more over the ifly737, the PMDG NGX is 200% worth it.. just saying.

Nah it's not. try doing an RNP approach with the PMDG NG. Plus with the iFly you get all the 737 derivatives. It flies very well.

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2 hours ago, mpw8679 said:

Nice will probably pick this up instead of the NGX.  Can't justify the price of the NGX and expansions.  Already bought it once. Not doing it again.

Go waste money on the Ifly model. Not hurting anyone other then yourself when you complain about purchasing the PMDG bird for P3Dv4. FSX isnt P3D last time I checked.

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4 hours ago, joemiller said:

200% ? ouch way exaggerated... More like 5% (the PMDG has a few extra fuses you can "turn off') So, not much of a difference. If I really wanted the best 737 NXG sim, then I would buy a $3 million dollar simulator- not a $140.00 one. (just saying)

If you haven't checked already, the NGX is 89.99, you get what you pay for, 30$ difference isn't really much if you think about it. Oh and for the 200%, I was just tossing that out there. Quality just over cockpit screen shots is a no-brainer. -cheers

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2 hours ago, cowpatz said:

Nah it's not. try doing an RNP approach with the PMDG NG. Plus with the iFly you get all the 737 derivatives. It flies very well.

Never had an issue doing any RNP..

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4 hours ago, Chock said:

Note that you can download a voucher to discount the price of the P3D V4 version of the iFly 737 if you have previously bought the FSX version, so it effectively means you can upgrade to P3D V4 from FSX for about 30 quid.

I won't deny that the PMDG 737 NG is undoubtedly very cool, but the apart from a collimated HUD, the iFly one does pretty much the same job and gives you all variants of the NG in that one package, whereas if you want numerous variants of the PMDG one, you have to pay a bit more on top of the base package, which is also more expensive, so it is quite a price difference between the two if you are going for several variants.

Alan, I am kinda keen to pick this up. Couple questions if you don't mind. 

1. How is the geometry of the virtual cockpit compared to the PMDG NGX. I know many have said that the cockpit windows of the PMDG one are too big. Does iFly have it more accurate? 

2. Flight dynamics? On par with PMDG, is she a joy to hand fly? Autopilot with LNAV/VNAV accurate?

3. Accurate fuel burns? Would like to get this for the 900ER but if the fuel burn is say the same as the PMDG standard 900 model then it's not worth it to me. 

4. Is the FMC on part with the functionality of the PMDG one? 

Thank you 

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Well, if it flies like it does in FSX, then yes,it is an excellent simulation of the 737 NG with good flight dynamics, accurate fuel burns, lots of options via the P3D Add-on menu, an excellent simulation of the FMC and all that cool stuff one would want in a study sim 737, and particularly since it offers the entire NG range in the package. Given that I literally have just bought the thing for P3D and am curently flying it on LNAV and MCP altitude on an Air Hauler 2 flight in P3D V4 from Liverpool to Munster, I'm not yet in a position to absolutely swear to its fidelity though, but thus far, passing over DOLAS at 33,000 feet, it seems to be behaving itself and is as per its FSX incarnation, i.e. it seems as good as the FSX one.

I know some people pray at the 'Holy Church of PMDG' lol, and won't entertain the notion that anything will ever match PMDG's offerings, but in my opinion the only thing which really seperates the iFly 737 NG and the PMDG 737 NG (unless you are talking super nerdy accuracy, in which case the PMDG is a tiny bit better in some very small ways) is the collimated HUD in the PMDG 737 NG, which the iFly one does not possess, but then again, plenty of real NGs don't have a HUD either, so it's not a deal breaker for me personally, although others might differ in that opinion. That's not true of the iFly 747, which whilst undeniably very good, is of course roundly trounced by the truly groovy newer incarnation of the PMDG 747-400 for FSX, and given that is the case, it would not surprise me if the new PMDG 737 NG incarnation for P3D V4 ends up being better than this iFly one for P3D V4, but that is speculation on my part and in any case, I should hope it would be given the price difference.

I do have the FSX PMDG NG and had the original one too which was for FS9, and I've got the Ariane NG as well if it comes to that (bought that for both FS9 and FSX as well, as indeed I did with the iFly NG), so I guess I'm as nerdy as anyone when it comes to 737s since I will buy pretty much any 737 variant anyone cares to make for a flight simulator (and have done lol), so I will admit that, like most people, I originally bought the iFly 737 NG because it beat the PMDG one to release for FSX, which is also why I bought the Ariane one, cos that beat both of them to the draw for FSX. But I can honestly say that I do continue to fly my iFly FSX NG even though I have the PMDG one, because I found the iFly one is a bit kinder on frame rates in FSX, and as I said, there's not a lot between them as far as simulating the real NG goes, so where FSX is concerned, it being 32 bit, anything which could help prevent my computer from exploding or getting an OOM was welcome.

For me, this one was a bit of a no brainer purchase simply because of the price, because in having the FSX version and with Flight 1 offering a discount coupon for people who had that one, making this P3D V4 version just 25 quid with that discount, that is quite a bargain given it is actually including nine different aeroplanes variants. However, if the PMDG one for P3D V4 turns up soon, which one suspects it will, it'd perhaps not be such an easy decision for anyone not qualifying for that discount, because although dearer (but no longer by so much without the discount), and even with the caveat of the PMDG one not including as many variants unless one also buys an expansion, there is no denying that PMDG don't half seem to have a handle on getting things to perform well nowadays if their FSX 747-400 is anything to go by, because that thing runs brilliantly in FSX. And that being the case, I suspect they might have learned a thing or two which will be incorporated into their P3D V4 version of the NG, and then of course it would be the one which runs better, so it'd only be the fact that you get more variants which would make the iFly seem attractive, because the price difference would be fairly negligible for anyone who only wants to fly a couple of NG variants, since all of them seem cheap compared to the second mortgage you need to take out to buy the FSL A320 lol (and yeah, I bought that one too).

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Anybody know whether iFly's 747-400 will be made P3Dv4 compatible. I have the 32 bit version for P3D.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Lenny777 said:

Anybody know whether iFly's 747-400 will be made P3Dv4 compatible. I have the 32 bit version for P3D.

 

 

Yes it will.

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