September 15, 20178 yr As the title says the QW 787 User Manual is available for DL. Its not the final copy. https://www.facebook.com/QualityWings/?hc_ref=ARR-3B18t3GiDHNIKyV9xgeuKJihFA5Pu5cLRrVjI16UubY5Yj7BeDEzNlM80355VJ0&fref=nf Pete Richards I've owned every version of flight simulator since Flight Simulator 3.0 in 1988. Windows 11 Pro loaded on a 4TB Gen5 Crucial T700 SSD, 4TB Samsung 990 Pro SSD, Ryzen 9 7950x3d, AS Rock X670e Taichi Motherboard, Gigabyte Gaming RTX 4090 OC 24GB, 64GB (2x32GB) Viper Venom DDR5-6000MT/s, MSI 32" MAG 321UPX QD-OLED 260hz 4K Gaming Monitor.
September 15, 20178 yr Super cool. Thank you How I Evaluate Third Party Sim Addon Developers Refined P3Dv5.0 HF2 Settings Part1 (has MaddogX) and older thread Part 2 (has PMDG 747)
September 15, 20178 yr Release must be getting close... paintkit last week, manual this week.....product - next week?
September 15, 20178 yr Quite extensive. Looks like its very well systems modeled. Cant wait for the P3D version CYVR LSZH I7-14700k 64gb 6000Mhz DDR5 ASUS z690 ROG STRIX Gaming RTX 4080 Super,
September 15, 20178 yr So it comparable to pmdg level of detail in the sim. I know the manual is lots of pages. I just skimmed through it. I always thought QualityWings produced intermediate skill level products. I guess we all will find out when it is released How I Evaluate Third Party Sim Addon Developers Refined P3Dv5.0 HF2 Settings Part1 (has MaddogX) and older thread Part 2 (has PMDG 747)
September 15, 20178 yr 4 minutes ago, Skywolf said: So it comparable to pmdg level of detail in the sim. I know the manual is lots of pages. I just skimmed through it. I always thought QualityWings produced intermediate skill level products. I guess we all will find out when it is released Only a beta tester can answer it. But so far looks light years ahead of previous products. The 757 was fun to fly but it was word not allowed on systems. Heck you could start with the packs on just to name one silly thing with that aircraft. I think its time they finally put the Quality in QualityWings. CYVR LSZH I7-14700k 64gb 6000Mhz DDR5 ASUS z690 ROG STRIX Gaming RTX 4080 Super,
September 15, 20178 yr 1 hour ago, HighTowers said: Only a beta tester can answer it. But so far looks light years ahead of previous products. The 757 was fun to fly but it was word not allowed on systems. Heck you could start with the packs on just to name one silly thing with that aircraft. I think its time they finally put the Quality in QualityWings. Terrible Post...the 757 was modeled a decade ago; at the time, QW's mantra was "complexity simplified." To that point, they created a mid-range, 'quality' aircraft that represented great value (e.g. 3 models for the price of one). After the 757, QW dropped the "complexity simplified" model and produced a sophisticated aircraft (i.e. BAE 146); this aircraft demonstrated the evolution of the QW team. Moreover, it demonstrated a shift away from 'simplified' aircraft to more sophisticated simulations. No doubt QWs evolution will be reflected in their latest rendition. However, the notion, or suggestion, that QW has not produced "Quality" aircraft is complete nonsense. In point of fact, they produced quality aircraft based on a predefined design model that was aimed at a different segment of simmers. After all, our hobby encompasses more than just 'hard core' simulation fans. I bet many simmers enjoyed QW simplified 757 model... Matt King
September 15, 20178 yr 1 hour ago, Skywolf said: So it comparable to pmdg level of detail in the sim. And you know this....how, exactly? Best regards, Neal McCullough
September 15, 20178 yr We couldn't get off page one without an attack to another poster? In fact, HighTowers view is similar to mine. However, we are expressing our OPINIONS. The only terrible post would you be attacking someone for their opinion. Quality, in this case, is in the eye of the customer. If a plane does something basic in the sim that it shouldn't do IRL (starting with packs on in this case) is it really "Quality"? As for your "facts" they ARE NOT "facts". Your definition of quality is subjective. Anyways, their subsequent Bae/Avro was much better and I'm expecting the 787 to raise the bar again. On topic: I'm willing to purchase the 787, but I'm not sure if it is study sim quality ( and in all honesty; it doesn't need to be a study sim). Doesn't mean it won't' be great, but I am expecting better than the very good Avro series, Kudos to QW for putting out the paint kit and documentation. "I am the Master of the Fist!" -Akuma
September 15, 20178 yr 1 hour ago, nealmac said: And you know this....how, exactly? He's right though. The Crj manuel is quite good but the Crj cant fly in a straight line. Saying that ive a feeling it's going to be a good product a 7.5 or an fsl low 8 but not pmdg level 9 out of 10 I've had 2 weeks off work and go back on the Friday 22nd. I predict (just to annoy me) it will come out on the 22! With the fsl so as I'm doing my 4 nights every one else will be flying that 787 and 320
September 15, 20178 yr I suspect that the QW 787 will indeed be a "study sim". I am fairly certain that they decided to "raise the complexity bar" when they announced the 787 project. Christopher Low AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme UK2000 Beta Tester
September 15, 20178 yr Commercial Member Oh great. Here I am brushing up on my reading for the MD-88 for beta testing, studying the A330 manuals for beta testing, and now I'll have to add the 787 just for fun! LOL Really looking forward to this one. Dave Hodges System Specs: I9-13900KF, NVIDIA 4070TI, Quest 3, Multiple Displays, Lots of TERRIFIC friends, 3 cats, and a wonderfully stubborn wife.
September 15, 20178 yr 1 hour ago, nealmac said: And you know this....how, exactly? Omg, lol - I honestly had a typo. I was wondering on how is the qw787 study depth compared to pmdg. But looks like other users have already answered. I must have been hungry or something as I ate some words. How I Evaluate Third Party Sim Addon Developers Refined P3Dv5.0 HF2 Settings Part1 (has MaddogX) and older thread Part 2 (has PMDG 747)
September 15, 20178 yr 1 hour ago, tooting said: He's right though. The Crj manuel is quite good but the Crj cant fly in a straight line. Saying that ive a feeling it's going to be a good product a 7.5 or an fsl low 8 but not pmdg level 9 out of 10 I've had 2 weeks off work and go back on the Friday 22nd. I predict (just to annoy me) it will come out on the 22! With the fsl so as I'm doing my 4 nights every one else will be flying that 787 and 320 Why are you (yet again) bringing the CRJ into it? My post was based on a comparison between Quality Wings and PMDG. I think you secretly love the CRJ, as you feel the need to mention it as often as possible. Anyway, it sounded like he was comparing the aircraft systems, as opposed to comparing the manuals. Which is why I asked him how did he know. Best regards, Neal McCullough
September 15, 20178 yr 1 hour ago, Skywolf said: Omg, lol - I honestly had a typo. I was wondering on how is the qw787 study depth compared to pmdg. But looks like other users have already answered. I must have been hungry or something as I ate some words. Yep, I just noticed that. I thought you were making a statement, rather than asking a question. It's all cool bro. Best regards, Neal McCullough
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