If only there weren't so many bloody things in the way of further Heathrow expansion, like communities and families and homes and jobs and pubs and schools and graveyards!

Why can't everyone just get behind more airport expansion! everywhere! all the time!

😋

Edited June 8, 20187 yr by EGLD

Montréal–Mirabel International Airport is the perfect example of when you try to relocate an international airport from inside a city to somewhere else, in this case north of the city. The reality is the airlines chose not to leave as the logistics of being displaced from the city didn't work.

Montréal–Mirabel International Airport is famous for the filming location for Terminal with Tom Hanks and also used as a race track, because no passenger airlines use it anymore, just Cargo ops and Bombardier. This is why Heathrow isn't going anywhere and they will continue to squeeze what they can out of it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montréal–Mirabel_International_Airport

Edited June 8, 20187 yr by Matthew Kane

Matthew, that reminds me of the "MidAmerica St. Louis" airport White Elephant:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MidAmerica_St._Louis_Airport

MidAmerica St. Louis Airport was created to alleviate crowding at St. Louis Lambert International Airport, but has been criticized as a pork barrel project.[5] Featured several times as a "Fleecing of America" segment on the NBC Nightly News, it was called a "Gateway to Nowhere" by Tom Brokaw, costing taxpayers $313 million.[6]

 

should of built boris island. that 3rd runway is never going to get built.  

13 hours ago, tooting said:

should of built boris island. that 3rd runway is never going to get built.  

I suspect you mean should have built an airport to the east of London. We can agree on that.

1 hour ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

I suspect you mean should have built an airport to the east of London. We can agree on that.

Nah, I disagree!
Should close Heathrow after expanding and rebuilding Luton airport. If I were permitted to design it, an expanded 3-runway Luton airport would replace the town - no-one would miss it!  
#shotsfired #joke

On 6/8/2018 at 9:40 AM, n4gix said:

Matthew, that reminds me of the "MidAmerica St. Louis" airport White Elephant:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MidAmerica_St._Louis_Airport

 

Wow, all this time, and I didn't know they were flying domestic out of Scott.

(I'm at KCGI, about 90 miles south, so you'd think I would have known...)

The whole Heathrow thing reminds me of what they experienced in STL when they added its new runway a while back.  And now, with TWA gone, they have a lot more concrete than they need.  They might as well make that runway a drag strip and charge admission.   I don't think Heathrow will have that problem -- there looks like a definite need.  th

Boris island would have problems getting the airlines to switch I was born in Kent its on the channel ports side of London, it would be jammed in the south east on roads and rail it already is.  

20 hours ago, Mace said:

 

Wow, all this time, and I didn't know they were flying domestic out of Scott.

(I'm at KCGI, about 90 miles south, so you'd think I would have known...)

Well, as it turned out the entire project wound up keeping Scott AFB operational (it was scheduled to be shut down), so it wasn't a complete waste of money after all.

On 6/7/2018 at 6:41 PM, ahsmatt7 said:

So your saying that because of the new runway, there will be increased traffic?

I would argue that that won't be the case. It will help alleviate quite a bit of head aches.

Granted, new arrivals and departures should be made to make the new layout efficient. 

Is not the whole point of building a new runway (and a sixth terminal for that matter) to increase Heathrow's capacity and allow for new expansion, in order for the airport to maintain its position against competition in Europe? The two runways currently may see a temporary reduction in traffic. However, as time progresses, Heathrow will fill that capacity as demand requires.

The best airport design currently has the takeoff runways starting near the terminals and the landing runways ending near the terminals, so that taxi times in most weather conditions are kept to a minimum, thus keeping fuel use on the ground and noise pollution on the ground to a minimum (Planes land toward the terminals, planes take off away from them). Unfortunately, that design requires quite a long and thin land plot, (easily near 10km with two 4000m runways...) which perhaps a location like Heathrow would have great difficulty in realizing.

I personally would not want to live anywhere near one of these mega-airports. The noise and pollution is horrendous (just stand at the spotters's location near 25L in Frankfurt, next to the A5 motorway... There, the runways 25R/07L and 25L/07R can be used for simultaneous landings (as there is the required lateral separation, maybe this would also be possible with LHR?) while 25C/07C and 18 are used for takeoff operations only (in LHR, there would then only be one runway for takeoff operations,,,)

Does anyone have any info on how this thrid runway in LHR is to be integrated into the current airport setup?

A

Edited June 11, 20187 yr by aentwis

7 hours ago, aentwis said:

Does anyone have any info on how this thrid runway in LHR is to be integrated into the current airport setup?

The plan is for the 3rd runway to be located to the north of 09L / 27R. That is the only area suitable as there are large reservoirs to the south of the airfield.

That will put it in a direct line to Windsor Castle around 6nm to the west. Just as well there aren’t any more weddings planned there for a while. 😁

On 6/11/2018 at 10:29 PM, Ray Proudfoot said:

The plan is for the 3rd runway to be located to the north of 09L / 27R. That is the only area suitable as there are large reservoirs to the south of the airfield.

That will put it in a direct line to Windsor Castle around 6nm to the west. Just as well there aren’t any more weddings planned there for a while. 😁

It's never getting built. They should of done this 20 years ago. The idea of a tunnel for the m25 is madness. 

In the last election both the torys and Labour where neck and neck and statically the number crunchers have realised that the Muslim and Student vote is enough to tip the swingometer.  Corbyn has seen it too in the city and with students, and Burnham has clocked it in the North West with the 'diverse population' 

All the residents of Hounslow, Hayes and Harlington and South Hall have to do is either build a couple of mosques up by the Crowne Plaza and the students find some endangered stick Insects in the reservoirs and Jezzer and Andy can use as a pivot in the next election to swing it for them