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Should I get the FSLABS A320?

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Hi all!  I am intent on buying the FSLabs A320 for p3dv4 but am wondering if it will be good for performance. My system is an Alienware aurora R5 (no 3rd party components). I do not have any ORBX products installed and run all PMDG aircraft with 20-35 frames on approach. Will the FSLabs be a good working aircraft performance wise on my system I will easily turn down the settings for better FPS. P.S. already sold on the A320 as a product, just wondering about performance.  Another quick thing  I fly on vatsim almost every flight but am connected to wifi wirelessly would it boost my frames if I wired my connection? Thank you so much!

Simon S.

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The performance is its one and only weak spot. But it is managable with a little lower settings than with the other planes. With your PC you should not have any issues at all.

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On my system, It performs roughly at par with the PMDG 737.  I have no idea what is in an Alienware Aurora R5.

I think that if you can run the PMDG birds, you should be OK.

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Same as Bob Scott, my FSLabs performance is almost the same as PMDG 737.

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I think FSL has addressed the performance issues quite well with the increment of fixpacks.

Yes it is resource hungry, but on my rig it is on par with PMDG 747 QOTS II.
Like others wrote, you should be OK.

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The FSL A320 is on par with other fancy add-on aeroplanes in terms of performance; if you can run those, you can run the FSL 'Bus.

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On my system it's definitely the slowest of the "heavies". I recently did some testing because something didn't seem right, and sitting on a runway powered and ready to flight I get:

FSL A-320: 32-35 fps

QW B-787: 37-42 fps

PMDG B-748: 41-43 fps

PMDG B-737: 43-47 fps

30+ fps may sound quite good, but that is with a clean weather and not too busy airport. In flight it can easily drop below 20 fps. That's on a i7-8700k (4.7GHz), 32GB ram@3200MHz and GTX1080. 

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I think the Aerosoft Airbus Pro may perform better if framerate is a concern

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FSL have pretty much addresses all of the FPS problems over the last couple months. It's an amazing airplane, they did such a good job. I currently fly that and the Q400. You'll love it and to me it's worth the price. 

Ps: they are soon coming out with an update that is suppose to add tons of new features (rain, ice, snow, ACARS ATSU, winds aloft etc). If you like medium haul liners then get this one because t currently is the best on the market as far as I am concerned. 

 

Cheers !

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Going to add my question with the Ops's question

How good are the manuals which come with FSLabs 320 and do they have a very good tutorial?  Are the manuals in the same quality of PMDG?

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I concur with the others,  in the past, it was a huge fps hog and gave significantly lower FPS than other planes like PMDG NGX, but now I get pretty much the same FPS as with other complex addons, so they addressed the issue very well.

I think it's one of the best addons ever made (if you like flying an airbus, Im more of a BOING guy)

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I don’t have it, but for sure it’s the best Airbus simulation you can have. 

I understand the systems are its strongest point, but wonder if regarding the exterior and VC modeling it’s also the best one around. Probably somebody could say something.

Cheers, Ed

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2 hours ago, Skywolf said:

Going to add my question with the Ops's question

How good are the manuals which come with FSLabs 320 and do they have a very good tutorial?  Are the manuals in the same quality of PMDG?

The FSL docs, to be honest, appear to be something of an afterthought.  Very sparse and underwhelming...definitely not anything comparable to what PMDG provides for its add-ons.  It's especially problematic, because anyone not already conversant with Airbus technology and terminology (e.g. MCDU vs FMC, green-dot etc), managed vs selected mode, normal vs alternate vs direct control laws may not ever come to appreciate what is actually built into the add-on.

I tend to rely on knowledge gained from using previous ScareBus add-ons.  A pity when you have to go to 12-year-old PSS docs from an old FS9 add-on to answer a question.

Regards

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29 minutes ago, w6kd said:

The FSL docs, to be honest, appear to be something of an afterthought.  Very sparse and underwhelming...definitely not anything comparable to what PMDG provides for its add-ons.  It's especially problematic, because anyone not already conversant with Airbus technology and terminology (e.g. MCDU vs FMC, green-dot etc), managed vs selected mode, normal vs alternate vs direct control laws may not ever come to appreciate what is actually built into the add-on.

I tend to rely on knowledge gained from using previous ScareBus add-ons.  A pity when you have to go to 12-year-old PSS docs from an old FS9 add-on to answer a question.

Regards

YouTube - blackbox711 

Smart cockpit . Com

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47 minutes ago, edpatino said:

I don’t have it, but for sure it’s the best Airbus simulation you can have. 

I understand the systems are its strongest point, but wonder if regarding the exterior and VC modeling it’s also the best one around. Probably somebody could say something.

Cheers, Ed

The exterior modeling of the FSL is not its strongest point (it is the best simulation of an Airbus, or any other airliner in P3D/FSX for that matter), but there are others which are better in their visuals...

 

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Hi Simon,

I'll chime in here and agree that the FSLabs A3XX series aircraft are top of class for Airbus add-ons, and specifically for simmers interested in all the nuts and bolts.  I will add, though, that with my setup (see sig below) the performance definitely struggles more than all the mentioned PMDG birds, and especially in heavy weather.  In my specific case, my numbers are more like what some1 posted here:

6 hours ago, some1 said:

FSL A-320: 32-35 fps

PMDG B-748: 41-43 fps

PMDG B-737: 43-47 fps

I don't believe you'll be disappointed with the A320, but as you state, you may have the adjust some settings to get the max enjoyment.  Have fun!

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29 minutes ago, Chock said:

The exterior modeling of the FSL is not its strongest point (it is the best simulation of an Airbus, or any other airliner in P3D/FSX for that matter), but there are others which are better in their visuals...

Many thanks, good to know.

Cheers, Ed

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1 hour ago, w6kd said:

The FSL docs, to be honest, appear to be something of an afterthought.  Very sparse and underwhelming...definitely not anything comparable to what PMDG provides for its add-ons.  It's especially problematic, because anyone not already conversant with Airbus technology and terminology (e.g. MCDU vs FMC, green-dot etc), managed vs selected mode, normal vs alternate vs direct control laws may not ever come to appreciate what is actually built into the add-on.

I tend to rely on knowledge gained from using previous ScareBus add-ons.  A pity when you have to go to 12-year-old PSS docs from an old FS9 add-on to answer a question.

Regards

Thank you Bob, for sharing your thoughts about the manuals.  Very grateful for your insight, and looks like I am just going to save money for PMDG 747+Expansion for now.  I need the manuals/detailed tutorials, paying top dollar for this ultra expensive addons.  I will reconsider FSLabs once the manuals are there.

Thanks to the Op for asking questions about FSLabs and allowing me to tack my question to this thread.   

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1 hour ago, Skywolf said:

Thank you Bob, for sharing your thoughts about the manuals.  Very grateful for your insight, and looks like I am just going to save money for PMDG 747+Expansion for now.  I need the manuals/detailed tutorials, paying top dollar for this ultra expensive addons.  I will reconsider FSLabs once the manuals are there.

Thanks to the Op for asking questions about FSLabs and allowing me to tack my question to this thread.   

As mentioned above, there are VERY detailed (free) manuals on the internet like Smartcockpit.com.  Additionally, there are extremely good tutorials from Blackbox711 on Youtube that you can search and get everything you need regarding your questions.  I haven't had the need to open the manual with all of the info that is out there. 

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2 hours ago, Skywolf said:

Thank you Bob, for sharing your thoughts about the manuals.  Very grateful for your insight, and looks like I am just going to save money for PMDG 747+Expansion for now.  I need the manuals/detailed tutorials, paying top dollar for this ultra expensive addons.  I will reconsider FSLabs once the manuals are there.

Thanks to the Op for asking questions about FSLabs and allowing me to tack my question to this thread.   

There are good tutorials, as mentioned (see Blackbox711 on YouTube), including a good pdf-based tutorial that comes with the aircraft itself. There won't be available the kind of manuals that come with the PMDG Boeings, simply because Airbus hasn't made them available to FSL.

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I really love it.  I still haven't perfected ground handling though.  It always pulls to the left for me.

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I'll chime in a bit here, just to add a slight wrinkle on this;

It is an amazing plane, to be sure.  For me, however, I am plagued my micro stutters that have actually mostly driven me out of the FSLabs cockpit.  I think there are a few of us out there with similar problems, too.

I have it since the beginning and found - very much unlike most people - that the more the added into the plane the worse it became for me.  The last update - 266, I believe - was the first update that slightly reversed the trend.

 

i8700k overclocked to 5.1, Windows 10 Home 64, P3Dv4.3. 970GTX

 

Cheers,

 

Daniel

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Oh my gosh thank you all so much for the help. I wasn’t expecting this many responses at all! I have decided I am going to wait till Black Friday/Cyber Monday to see if there are any flash sales if not though I for sure need this plane. I have done loads of research and already own the as a320 pro. And it’s a great plane but I need faliures and immersion. I am also super excited because I have a super old Thrustmaster T. Flight HOTAS X as my joystick and am soon upgrading to the Warthog HOTAS. super excited! Once again thank you all so much for all your help it’s been great. I will report back about performance once I get the new stick and bus. THANKS!!!

Simon S.

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One thing that you'll get with the FSL Bus, Simon, is immersion. Tons of it. From the moment you attach the GPU and power it up. The sounds on this thing are very, very good indeed. It really has spoilt me for pretty much anything else unless I'm in the mood for a long haul jaunt.

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