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Chaseplane does take a toll on fps.. Don't know about ezdok.. But with new chaseplane version for 4.4, don't know how that is.. 


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2 hours ago, Maikel van der Heijden said:

Why? Uninstall client, install client, uninstall scenery, install scenery, uninstall content, install content. For you next run FTX central, FSDT live updater and install the Active Sky Beta patch. Thereafter you'll be good to go.

And what about all other addons that add effect files , textures and bgl files ?


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9 minutes ago, ms2 said:

First tryout of 4.4

just make a client update, to run with the same situation that mine stable 4.3

results:

- faster access for loading the first p3d Window.

- on EHAM Amsterdam a gain of 3fps then before. (With most cursors on max) ...is a flying-test that I keep always for tryout of versions...

- sharpness of textures are sure better.

think is a progress version but come back to 4.3, waiting the evolution to 4.4 of tools and aircrafts (as 717 Tdfi hdg don't work)

see you soon on p3dv4.4

Thank you !

So it seems that the fps gain is coming from the Cliënt update.

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I will install the client only option this evening, and if I'm happy with the way photoscenery is loading, I will stick with P3d, as opposed to jumping ship in favour of XP. I'll then do a complete install on my new 1Tb SSD 😃 So that will be the best part of the next two weeks sorted! 😒

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17 hours ago, nas123 said:

Super fast loading, super high FPS, butter smooth.

 

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Blurries always load faster then crisp textures - lol j/k Looks great.


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31 minutes ago, pao said:

No one is using a camera add-on like EZDOK here ? 

Gregory,

I've been using it since the first version, no problem and it's a must!
Concerning the compatibility with P3Dv4.4 a patch will be available tomorrow...

https://www.simforums.com/forums/ezca-2-8-for-p3d-4-4-in-process_topic60818.html

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16 minutes ago, ms2 said:

- on EHAM Amsterdam a gain of 3fps then before. (With most cursors on max) ...is a flying-test that I keep always for tryout of versions...

From what baseline? 3 fps from 100 fps is nothing, 3 fps from 15 fps is a big improvement. Is it addon Amsterdam scenery?


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29 minutes ago, briansommers said:

I used to until I used to get so sick and tired of all sorts of niggly little problems and then I fixed it once and for all:

I uninstalled it and bought chaseplane - no more problems.

Same here. Chaseplane is running fine under P3Dv4.4, they were very fast in providing an update enabling this.


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10 minutes ago, GSalden said:

And what about all other addons that add effect files , textures and bgl files ?

And the numerous changes of .bgl to .off according to the ORBX compatibility forum (and more according to specific manuals)?

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16 hours ago, Rob Ainscough said:

The F16 is in the content deployment not client, you'll need to install that if you didn't do a full install and client only.

?What do you mean?  For first time in a flight with V4.4 you may have a longer than normal black screen (shaders also get built) and may need to wait a minute or two pending the speed of your system.  Other cause could be add-ons you've install that aren't compliant with V4.4 yet.  And finally, if you're running very high graphics settings you could have run out of VRAM.

Cheers, Rob.

Rob,

I've have the same issue as Peter, it's not a matter of waiting for the shaders to rebuild, each and every iteration of P3D.VXX that has been released causes the sim to go straight to the default flight with a black screen (waited for 15 minutes). I can hear the engine running, no picture and no scenario startup. I have to delete all CFG files in all three LM Folders (AppData\Local & Roaming and in ProgramData) and restart the sim to get to the scenario screen.

This occurs on every update LM put out. Obviously this only happens to a small percentage of users, not sure what the commonality is between these systems, but that is the workaround I have to use to get any update to work. Unfortunate fact, but there it is.


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2 hours ago, J van E said:

Anyone who says something like 'performance seems to be better' should be banned from this topic and only allowed back in after he or she has done some serious testing and can prove their findings with hard numbers.

So are you volunteering then? 

That's A LOT of testing (to do it right both 4.3/4.4 would need to be from scratch installs) which requires one use 4.3 first with a "set" number of add-ons (configure those add-ons), configurations to balance loads CPU/GPU, removing variables like AI traffic, weather, etc. etc. etc. ... and then there is the hardware element, some GPU's (not all) will benefit much more from CUDA based water rendering libraries and changes that LM made (per change logs). 

And finally moving to v4.4 to replicate the testing when it uses an entirely different lighting system now (PBR) makes it impossible to do Apples to Apples compares.

As you can see from these threads, many just do the client update and leave all the add-ons intact and then discover which are and/or aren't compatible with V4.4 yet ... and some add-ons may not even present themselves as incompatible even though they aren't working correctly and could be causing performance issues.  It's no secret, there are A LOT of add-ons built with the FSX SDK so as to avoid the cost/work around having two unique development paths (one for P3D and one for FSX).

But haven't you done your own very informal testing with AF2 updates and posted about them elsewhere?  Did you get banned? 😉

There are some very significant difference between V4.3 and V4.4 ... it's one reason why I avoided doing direct compares during the Beta.  I just wanted to make sure I didn't see any major performance drops in V4.4 and I didn't.

Cheers, Rob.

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16 hours ago, Montie said:

Yes did a full reinstall. Doing a full reinstall again now.

Please make sure that you not only uninstall ALL Prepar3D modules (Client, Content, Scenery etc.) from windows. But also delete all the LM folders on your drive (<user>\AppData\Local & Roaming, and In the Program Data if you truly want to do a clean-reinstall.

I have yet to see any uninstall routine really and truly remove all traces of itself.


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2 minutes ago, AAN1718A said:

I've have the same issue as Peter, it's not a matter of waiting for the shaders to rebuild, each and every iteration of P3D.VXX that has been released causes the sim to go straight to the default flight with a black screen (waited for 15 minutes).

I've never experience that in my testing ... are you using a 3rd party product that might cause this (front end like SimStarter or something else)?  Sounds like perhaps the option to bypass the scenario screen is being set ... can you confirm this?

Cheers, Rob.

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