June 9, 20196 yr Hi, I am working on a photorealistic scenery package of 4000 sq km around Innsbruck. A lot of work has gone in to it, so I was thinking of selling it as payware. How much would people pay for such a product? Cheers, Will William Sandford Check out SwitchNowUnicom on Twitch! X-Plane 11i5-7300HQ @ 2.5GHz Nvidia GeForce GTX 1050 2560x1440
June 9, 20196 yr When you say photorealistic, do you mean from satellite/aerial imagery? If so, presumably you had to pay a significant licensing fee to use it commercially. If it were me, I would be basing my pricing structure on how much the licensing and man hours have cost me, not asking the community. Jason E Row Follow me on Youtube https://www.youtube.com/user/JasonRowPhotography
June 9, 20196 yr 12 minutes ago, yidahoo said: When you say photorealistic, do you mean from satellite/aerial imagery? If so, presumably you had to pay a significant licensing fee to use it commercially. If it were me, I would be basing my pricing structure on how much the licensing and man hours have cost me, not asking the community. Exactly that.. Well said. Best regards,--Anders Bermann-- ____________________Scandinavian VAPilot-ID: SAS2471
June 9, 20196 yr Author oh no! Didn't think of that! How much d'you think it would cost? William Sandford Check out SwitchNowUnicom on Twitch! X-Plane 11i5-7300HQ @ 2.5GHz Nvidia GeForce GTX 1050 2560x1440
June 9, 20196 yr Depends on who you are using for the satellite images but I would not be surprised if its 4-5 figure numbers in dollars. Ortho does not come cheap for commercial use and 4000 sq/km is a fair chunk of imagery. Jason E Row Follow me on Youtube https://www.youtube.com/user/JasonRowPhotography
June 9, 20196 yr Administrators Your last post was removed! Don't do that! So...you been working on this project for a while? Where have you been getting the images you are using? Charlie AronAVSIM Board of Directors-ADMIN/Moderator-RegistrarJust going to run a Chromebook and not upgrade to a Windows computer. Too many problems with the new Sims! 😱Trying to keep peace and harmony and the will of Landru on the site seems to be a full time job!
June 9, 20196 yr Author Sorry. Images sourced from Virtual Earth (bing) William Sandford Check out SwitchNowUnicom on Twitch! X-Plane 11i5-7300HQ @ 2.5GHz Nvidia GeForce GTX 1050 2560x1440
June 9, 20196 yr William, I suggest you read Bing's and Microsoft's TOS before you go too far with this. In the past Microsoft has been very protective of their property. If they do license 3rd parties, I will bet the price would be extreme. Thank you. Rick $Silver Donor EAA 1317610 I7-7700K @ 4.5ghz, MSI Z270 Gaming MB, 32gb 3200, Geforce RTX2080 Super O/C, 28" Samsung 4k Monitor, Various SSD, HD, and peripherals
June 9, 20196 yr You can't just take publicly available satellite imagery from Google or Microsoft and then use it in a product to make money without their permission. There are already a lot of photoreal sceneries in the AVSIM library which are freeware, so why should your scenery be payware? Dave Simulator: P3Dv6.1 System Specs: Intel i7 13700K CPU, MSI Mag Z790 Tomahawk Motherboard, 32GB DDR5 6000MHz RAM, Nvidia GeForce RTX 4070 Video Card, 3x 1TB Samsung 980 Pro M.2 2280 SSDs, Windows 11 Home OS My website for P3D stuff: https://sites.google.com/view/thep3dfiles/home
June 9, 20196 yr Technically, you cannot even distribute them for free if you read the EULAS for most providers. You can download them for your own use but if you modify and distribute then you are breaking their rules. They tend to turn a blind eye to home users but if too many people start distributing even as freeware, they may well start clamping down hard on us. And that would be sad. Jason E Row Follow me on Youtube https://www.youtube.com/user/JasonRowPhotography
June 9, 20196 yr Indeed Dave - I think most of us agree to the first point regarding licencing - you don't want to mess commercially with those two giants. On the second point - it's up to the creator if they wish to make payware and ultimately the user base who choose to walk with their wallets: For example I have shelled out to Just Flight for their first two volumes of their latest UK photoreal scenery - VFR Real 3D. It's worth it to me as I've lived in England all my life. Mark Robinson Part-time Ferroequinologist Author of FLIGHT: A near-future short story (ebook available on amazon) I made the baby cry - A2A Simulations L-049 Constellation Sky Simulations MD-11 V2.2 Pilot. The best "lite" MD-11 money can buy (well, it's not freeware!)
June 9, 20196 yr Author OK guys, thanks. I will take a look. @dave2013 the reason I think I could sell it is because it is over 4000 square kilometres of 1m/px photos. And it includes an improved innsbruck airport. William Sandford Check out SwitchNowUnicom on Twitch! X-Plane 11i5-7300HQ @ 2.5GHz Nvidia GeForce GTX 1050 2560x1440
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June 9, 20196 yr Author "Thou shalt not modify, copy, distribute, transmit, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, sublicense, transfer, assign, rent, sell or otherwise convey any information, software, products or services obtained from Bing Maps and MapPoint Web Service without the prior written consent from Microsoft." -Microsoft, April 2011 Edited June 9, 20196 yr by WilliamS William Sandford Check out SwitchNowUnicom on Twitch! X-Plane 11i5-7300HQ @ 2.5GHz Nvidia GeForce GTX 1050 2560x1440
June 10, 20196 yr On 6/9/2019 at 5:20 AM, WilliamS said: oh no! Didn't think of that! How much d'you think it would cost? Somehow I get the feeling you're not quite ready to take this on...............Doug Intel 10700K @ 5.1Ghz, Asus Hero Maximus motherboard, Noctua NH-U12A cooler, Corsair Vengeance Pro 32GB 3200 MHz RAM, RTX 2060 Super GPU, Cooler Master HAF 932 Tower, Thermaltake 1000W Toughpower PSU, Windows 10 Professional 64-Bit, 100TB of disk storage. Klaatu barada nickto.
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