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New MS Flight Sim shown at E3

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22 minutes ago, Woozie said:

What about race sims on consoles? Assetto Corsa Competizione on Xbox One is going to be 100% the same as the PC version, and keep in mind that Xbox OS is UWP, its running on a Win10 core. MS FS can be developed on PC and will require only marginal changes to make it an Xbox title. 

People are so traumatized by FSX/P3D's bad performance that they assume you will always need a super computer to run a flight simulator. It's just not true anymore, especially if some of the scenery will be streamed via new technology vs. completely processed locally. 

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Just now, ErichB said:

Finally we wont have autogen type scaling issues.

Omg. - this times 100!!

14 minutes ago, TravelRunner404 said:

fly PMDG with a mouse, keyboard and Xbox controller all the time and it works great. I do the same in A2A aircraft. No issues. You are kidding yourself if you think a plastic saitek yoke and those plastic rudder pedals are adding true realism to the sim.  They may add immersion and fun but realism? Not so much. 

The flightsim experience is subjective. You can trick you mind into believing anythign you want to believe.   Flying your desk is not real anyway.    The method of control with a yoke, plastic or otherwise,  is however, closer to a realistic method of control for a simulator.  

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Just now, irrics said:

That shot going by the Houston Stadium in the video… How awesome are those shadows!?

No jaggies or any weirdness - Best observed by watching it in motion

Speaking of jaggies, imagine a sim using a nice temporal anti-aliasing / post-sharpen solution, like we see in almost every new game these days. No more extremely heavy SSAA solutions that just put your GPU in an headlock and laugh and still not cleaning up the picture properly.

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2 minutes ago, TravelRunner404 said:

Also am I the only one here that flys with an Xbox controller?

I fly PMDG with a mouse, keyboard and Xbox controller all the time and it works great. I do the same in A2A aircraft. No issues. You are kidding yourself if you think a plastic saitek yoke and those plastic rudder pedals are adding true realism to the sim.  They may add immersion and fun but realism? Not so much. 

Eh - I think you’re going to little too far there.

A yoke and pedals is absolutely more realistic especially if you are a real pilot.  

I don’t begrudge anyone for using whatever input method works for them but it absolutely feels much more realistic to me to use control inputs that very much mimic the normal motor muscle memory from the real life activity. Additionally the larger range of motion possible helps immensely with fine control input. 

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2 minutes ago, bonchie said:

People are so traumatized by FSX/P3D's bad performance that they assume you will always need a super computer to run a flight simulator. It's just not true anymore, especially if some of the scenery will be streamed via new technology vs. completely processed locally. 

This and the assumption that all console players are  kiddies playing GTA

2 minutes ago, Sethos said:

Speaking of jaggies, imagine a sim using a nice temporal anti-aliasing / post-sharpen solution, like we see in almost every new game these days. No more extremely heavy SSAA solutions that just put your GPU in an headlock and laugh and still not cleaning up the picture properly.

They could even use NVIDIAs DLSS or their own solution (if there is one) to utilise machine learning for AA computing

I will share an unpopular opinion here…

I hope the Xbox version of this is as full featured as possible because I could see myself not even having a gaming PC anymore if it works well enough for this activity. 

As I’ve gotten older I basically don’t do anything on my gaming PC other than a old golf game and flight simulation. 

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2 minutes ago, Woozie said:

They could even use NVIDIAs DLSS or their own solution (if there is one) to utilise machine learning for AA computing

Someone said the game was mentioned in relation to Nvidia, at a conference or something, so it being an RTX supported game with DLSS and Ray Tracing is very likely. Obviously won't do much for all the non-RTX card owners but nice nonetheless.

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3 minutes ago, irrics said:

A yoke and pedals is absolutely more realistic especially if you are a real pilo

I agree it’s all a subjective experience.

I do believe they add immersion and fun. Comparing a saitek yoke to an actual Boeing 737 yoke in flight is way off topic. 

1 minute ago, irrics said:

I hope the Xbox version of this is as full featured as possible because I could see myself not even having a gaming PC anymore if it works well enough for this activity. 

It would certainly make building a simpit easier if you only have to leave room for a little console rather than a desktop tower.

 

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Just now, TravelRunner404 said:

I do believe they add immersion and fun. Comparing a saitek yoke to an actual Boeing 737 yoke in flight is way off topic. 

Agreed. 

11 minutes ago, irrics said:

That shot going by the Houston Stadium in the video… How awesome are those shadows!?

No jaggies or any weirdness - Best observed by watching it in motion

I know. It's amazing isn't it. 🙂

 

Just now, eslader said:

It would certainly make building a simpit easier if you only have to leave room for a little console rather than a desktop tower.

 

 

Not to mention there are so many of us that I don’t think really love the whole dealing with upgrading your computer all the time and tweaking and making it all perform well.

I would much rather spend all my time actually in the simulator and leave all that performance nonsense to the platform vendor   

2 minutes ago, irrics said:

I will share an unpopular opinion here…

I hope the Xbox version of this is as full featured as possible because I could see myself not even having a gaming PC anymore if it works well enough for this activity. 

 As I’ve gotten older I basically don’t do anything on my gaming PC other than a old golf game and fight simulation. 

Now imagine newly and revamped sidewinders being released by Microsoft and fully compatible with The Scarllet.

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