4 hours ago, simbol said:

Just sit, relax you will enjoy the product on its finished form and avoid lots of work.

While there are probably many who are not quite in the loop of what alpha testing means, there are also many who know exactly what it means and still want in. Personally, I'm really excited about the new sim so I'd just like to do what I can to help get the sim on its feet.

2 hours ago, Raymond.Groenendijk said:

As a developer you should probably contact the team to request SDK access like all the other developers did... That SDK will need testing just like the sim itself does. The sim will need testing on a lot of different hardware and software combinations (both for performance as well as for bugs and anomalies), the servers will need to be tested with load, etc. So they do not exclusively need trained testers to have access to the sim. Besides reporting bugs they also just want to get feedback (what do people like, what don't they like, what should they change, etc.). 

Who said I haven't? I might be under NDAs already 😉.

It doesn't mean me or anyone has any SDK though, this is an assumption every user is doing basically because it is the ideal world inside their heads since their wish is to have all their current add-ons available for the new simulator just on release date (we can't do magic guys 😂). People should read the development road map in more detail.

S.

43 minutes ago, simbol said:

Who said I haven't? I might be under NDAs already 😉.

It doesn't mean me or anyone has any SDK though, this is an assumption every user is doing basically because it is the ideal world inside their heads since their wish is to have all their current add-ons available for the new simulator just on release date (we can't do magic guys 😂). People should read the development road map in more detail.

S.

They said the first SDK release would be provided around the same time the 1st alpha would be delivered for as far as I can remember. So developers should probably have a good amount of time to develop their first add-ons (depending on actual release date and the complexity of the add-on of course). I do hope that they will soon provide the SDK to all interested developers though, not only to the big ones as that will give the small ones a disadvantage already.   

At this juncture, neither the Tech Alpha nor the SDK have been delivered to anyone. Soon, maybe.

3 minutes ago, Raymond.Groenendijk said:

They said the first SDK release would be provided around the same time the 1st alpha would be delivered for as far as I can remember. So developers should probably have a good amount of time to develop their first add-ons (depending on actual release date and the complexity of the add-on of course). I do hope that they will soon provide the SDK to all interested developers though, not only to the big ones as that will give the small ones a disadvantage already.   

Nice wishful thinking.. Roadmap indicates different information you believe or understand 😉.

In any case, building addons take years... lots of users forget that. You guys might see your favorite add-ons by 2022 or 2023 assuming of course it is possible to port over.

I can't say anything else due to ...

Regards,

Simbol 

The thing with alphas and betas nowadays is that they seem to have lost their meaning in a sense, especially the betas. Most of the major AAA games now have a closed beta when pre-ordering the game and an open beta for everyone else to "test" (yeah right, just another trick of the marketing department). Even though I'm sad I'm not invited, I would have preferred if they didn't make the alpha so open to the public. What I mean is that a large group of the invited people might not give the "correct" feedback. But we'll see how it turns out.

Edited October 27, 20196 yr by simtom

11 minutes ago, simbol said:

Nice wishful thinking.. Roadmap indicates different information you believe or understand 😉.

They actually said that in a recent interview, you can listen to it: 
https://www.flightsim.com/images/features/msfdev/FlightSim.com-Microsoft_Flight_Simulator_Interview_AUDIO.m4a?fbclid=IwAR0uX67nKaUdX2dqlAy1shcD9ciPVDfr0-1SG-dhryutuquFP7wyy15WP-s

At around 25:30 they mention [when they are going/when they intended] to send out the SDK's. That contradicts the roadmap, so I guess we'll have to see 🙂 Nonetheless, if you haven't listened to the interview it's a great listen, they also talk about 3rd party development, seasons, performance and a lot more.

15 minutes ago, simbol said:

In any case, building addons take years... lots of users forget that. You guys might see your favorite add-ons by 2022 or 2023 assuming of course it is possible to port over.

I understand that, I'm a developer myself (not flight sim add-ons though), but you don't want the platform you build on to be a moving target either, so I guess it is only stable enough just right now. Nonetheless you may be right about the more complex add-ons arriving long after launch. Personally I don't really see a problem with that as it will take time from people to move over from their old sims to the new one.

Also it looks like the new sim will have a lot to offer straight out of the box, most add-ons I bought are completely deprecated in the new sim (weather add-ons, cloud textures, global scenery packs, ground texture sets, etc.). So that should keep people busy part of the time until their beloved aircraft and/or airports arrive in the new sim. During that time they probably will switch back to the old sim from time to time to fly their beloved aircraft.   

Asobo Studio ... look what you made me do ... ohhhh ... look what you made me do ... :

 

😣

 

... also :

😇

And I also just received my +16GB of RAM to check the 32GB mark 😋

(no joke, but not actually related to the Tech alpha, it was planned long time ago ^^ )

On 10/27/2019 at 9:33 PM, n4gix said:

I certainly hope all of the selected "Tech Alpha 1" testers understand that what we will receive will be time-limited. After ASOBO has received enough reports, that release will cease to work entirely...

...and a new Tech Alpha with possibly an entirely different group of testers may be chosen, or they may simply expand the testing group.

How do you know that the Tech Alpha 1 tester team will not stay onboard until release and that the Alpha 1 will be time limited ?

1 hour ago, pao said:

How do you know that the Tech Alpha 1 tester team will not stay onboard until release and that the Alpha 1 will be time limited ?

From the Insider FAQ:

What is a Preview Build (Technical Alpha/Beta)?

Preview builds are work-in-progress builds we’ve created for the purpose of working directly with our community to deliver the best experience collaboratively through feedback/suggestions. Each build will have a specific set of content/functionality meant to provide a slice of the overall experience. These builds will be time gated and limited to a specific number of Insiders. Participants in these builds will vary with each release so if you are not selected for one, that does not mean you will be excluded from others. As with all Preview builds, we expect some turbulence along the way but we are committed to doing our best to ensure we get you into smoother air, as quickly as possible. We view Preview Build participation is a critical step in our path to building the next generation of Microsoft Flight Simulator and look forward to working closely with you!

1 hour ago, pao said:

How do you know that the Tech Alpha 1 tester team will not stay onboard until release and that the Alpha 1 will be time limited ?

On the insider FAQ it states the alpha will be time limited, under what is a preview build

https://www.flightsimulator.com/insider-program-faq/

Given how quiet it's become in this forum I think it's likely the first subset of Tech 1 testers already has something. There never was a statement that said everyone accepted would get access on the 24th. They probably have a set process for testing certain areas of the sim, some with items to be checked with certain hardware/software configurations, etc. We really don't know and with what the NDA probably is may not ever know until NDA's are lifted.

6 minutes ago, gsand said:

Given how quiet it's become in this forum I think it's likely the first subset of Tech 1 testers already has something. There never was a statement that said everyone accepted would get access on the 24th. They probably have a set process for testing certain areas of the sim, some with items to be checked with certain hardware/software configurations, etc. We really don't know and with what the NDA probably is may not ever know until NDA's are lifted.

I was blind but now I can see...😆

Edited October 31, 20196 yr by pao

I am still checking my email from time to time. We know how these things are, internet is a big place and sometimes emails are lost. Right? Right?!?

1 hour ago, france89 said:

I am still checking my email from time to time. We know how these things are, internet is a big place and sometimes emails are lost. Right? Right?!?

What if they emailed me and I deleted it without knowing, what should I do??? :))