16 minutes ago, irrics said:

I hope it does..

I’m no longer interested in this hobby being a “wild west” of other App stores and random third party installers (and update hassles) or potential malware/spyware being installed by such installers and third party Devs (as we know this has been a real thing in FS community)

 

Devs might maybe not be happy that they have to share a cut of their sales, but in the end they also profit from a well organized marketplace.

Nothing would make me happier than Microsoft being 10% in control of all commercial addons for the new FS, but only IF they can make it into a well organized system and one that lets developers keep a fair share of the profits. And there still needs to be some sort of opening for freeware mods - hopefully with the help of Microsoft in terms of making the installation and use a low risk affair.

As much as I am grateful and realise that it's the third party developers that have kept this hobby alive for the past decade, I'm so sick and tired of the wild west (to quote irrics) we have today. 

@simmerhead

Fully agree.  I don’t want or need the only option to be a first party store, but I do want one to exist and thrive.

 

If people want to install “whatever is out there that they find or build”, have at it and I support that — but I’m mostly out on that stuff anymore.

Edited January 29, 20206 yr by irrics

I am highly supportive of an organized central system for addons. One single place from where all addons can be installed, configurated, updated and uninstalled. 

That doesn't necessarily mean that addons must also be exclusively purchased within this system. It  might be possible that they still can be purchased anywhere, but then must be integrated into that organized central addon system.

 

31 minutes ago, RALF9636 said:

That doesn't necessarily mean that addons must also be exclusively purchased within this system. It  might be possible that they still can be purchased anywhere, but then must be integrated into that organized central addon system.

 

The only problem there is that means MS would have 100% approval control over what’s allowed.

I’m not in favor of it being fully locked down, Apple style, but rather that the MS App Store for MSFS is preferred and an optional way to go, but not the only way.

It’s bad news for consumers ultimately if it’s fully locked down and all third party things require approval by the vendor.  They end up having concerns over IP and licensing, etc...

Such restrictions would prohibit things like third party repaints of aircraft that used real airline names, as one example.

Edited January 29, 20206 yr by irrics

8 minutes ago, irrics said:

The only problem there is that means MS would have 100% approval control over what’s allowed.

I’m not in favor of it being fully locked down, Apple style, but rather that the MS App Store for MSFS is preferred and an optional way to go, but not the only way.

It’s bad news for consumers ultimately if it’s fully locked down and all third party things require approval by the vendor.  They end up having concerns over IP and licensing, etc...

Such restrictions would prohibit things like third party repaints of aircraft that used real airline names, as one example.

I agree, the devil is in the detail.

 

New screenshot on their Twitter 

Edited January 29, 20206 yr by irrics

There isn't a viable company in this world that is in business to lose money. Profit is the only thing that keeps the doors open. How else do you pay for facilities, infrastructure, materials, and personnel?

For those that think otherwise, I suggest you start your own business or study Macro Economics.

 

34 minutes ago, 188AHC said:

There isn't a viable company in this world that is in business to lose money. Profit is the only thing that keeps the doors open. How else do you pay for facilities, infrastructure, materials, and personnel?

For those that think otherwise, I suggest you start your own business or study Macro Economics.

 

any company for whom money is the top priority will not be in business long.  Theres much more to business than money.

1 hour ago, sightseer said:

any company for whom money is the top priority will not be in business long.  Theres much more to business than money.

Read what I said again. I never implied that money was the top or only objective. But having studied Micro and Macro economics, I'm pretty well versed in how the market operates whether its a Mom and Pop grocery or a multinational corporation. They all have to make a profit to stay in business.

 

This is an odd diversion from the thread topic, no?

Can we talk about MSFS again?

8 hours ago, 188AHC said:

Read what I said again. I never implied that money was the top or only objective. But having studied Micro and Macro economics, I'm pretty well versed in how the market operates whether its a Mom and Pop grocery or a multinational corporation. They all have to make a profit to stay in business.

 

I think we all agree on that basically. We were discussing the ideas how MS is planning to do that.

The ideas range from addon shop to using MSFS in the course of a marketing strategy. Especially with a giant coorparation like MS it could very well be that they work on a larger scale. Invest money into something to gain more money out of some other branch.

Edited January 30, 20206 yr by tweekz

You can study all the economics you want, but there is very little theory that is relevant to what's happening tin the world today. I've been a corporate banker for 20 years, and the world right now is a crazy place where fundamental economic theory is proven wrong every day (That isn't to say that "gravity" will pull everything back into place at some point, but we're not there yet). 

I'm sure Microsoft have a solid business plan for MSFS - whether it's profit or pure R&D - it's not just a shot in the dark. MS are after all one of the leading companies of the world for a reason. FSX made them a bucketload of money with 2+ million DVDs sold, and it was used as a showcase software for Windows Vista and DirectX. Microsoft are again making waves with MSFS far outside of the tiny circle of die hard simmers, and that has great value in and of itself. 

MS isn't just raising the bar software wise, they're doing it with their marketing as well. In 30 years of gaming I've never seen anything like it. Their PR campaign is exemplary with humbleness, humor and openness. They are even letting "amateurs" participate at the Alpha-stage. It's been a fun ride so far! 

I’m really really really biting my tongue right now!!!!!!!!!!

Edited January 30, 20206 yr by jpc55

Will there be an update today?