10 hours ago, ca_metal said:

but still would make me think it would worth to pay around 30 dollars to have this airport terminals just a little bit more accurate and have some landmarks/points of interest around it.

Yes, I'm thinking the same. Even though I have been to St.Barths in real life, I think I have only tried it a couple of times in the sim, so I'll be more than satisfied with default MSFS.I think that the same will be the case with other default airports, and only places where I fly reguarly, I will consider buying third party airports, if I find that it's much better than default.

No doubt we will save a lot of money in scenery addons, aircrafts and airports, so what's not to like in MSFS 🙂 

Edited January 27, 20206 yr by jlund

Just now, jlund said:

Yes, I'm thinking the same. Even though I have been to St.Barths in real life, I think I have only tried it a couple of times in the sim, so I'll be more than satisfied with default MSFS.Ithink that the same will e the case with other default airports, and only places where I fly reguarly, I will consider buying third party airports, if I find that it's much better than default.

No doubt we will save a lot of money in scenery addons, aircrafts and airports, so what's not to like in MSFSD 🙂 

I think we can certainly be more selective about what Airports and scenery we choose to buy if a good proportion of the sim is as good as it seems so far.

15 hours ago, jlund said:

No doubt we will save a lot of money in scenery addons, aircrafts and airports, so what's not to like in MSFS 🙂

Wait around for awhile and some folks will enlighten you.

The mistake we often make is to compare the screenshots of FS2020 with screenshots of FSX and or P3DV4.5 inflated by all the wonderful add-ons that
we are happy to have in our scenario library. 
Add-ons in the end quite expensive, essential for realism, but which have gradually enriched our simu for 13 years !!

Concerning St Barth I realized this island as well as Guadeloupe in free for P3DV4.

https://www.rikoooo.com/downloads/viewdownload/68/924
 
For St Barth the mesh is 5 m and it is the most precise available to date.

it is therefore better than that of FlyTampa, the photo texture is also much better because of 50 cm and I can make one of 20 cm because all this data
is free, thanks to the open data that European Union(UE)has set up which means that a lot of previously paid French data is now free.

In short for FS2020 what is missing on St Barth is a mesh more precise than that which apparently is currently offered (pre-alpha) and less ubiquitous 
and bulky vegetation. 
In any case, despite everything, well done for the representation of the rock, it is sublime and to represent it like that is that, there is already 
good data, not to mention the resolution of textures in land class really very immersive, but maybe it's also satellite photos, there is not enough 
visualization to know.

But it has nothing to do with FSX!

https://goopics.net/a/XSiesHMo

For my realization I did not integrate a FSX-P3V4 track like that we can really appreciate the real slope and the good difference in altitude between 
the passage of the "Col de la tourmente" and the threshold of track 10.

I also left compatibility with the FlyTampa scene by deactivating or activating certain files!

and there you have the live!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5pr9vOC5ok

The beauty of MSFS will be scenery performance in its default form.

Compare your FSX / P3D scenery performance in default form to FSX / P3D laden with addon scenery and their frame rate killing complex 3D models.

 

21 hours ago, Bottle said:

It's always possible that just before release, and periodically afterwards, they run a refresh with the latest images, techniques and AI learning. It's therefore not unreasonable to expect the quality of the graphics to ratchet up year on year.

Based on everything we know so far about the world generation technology, it does seem like it would be possible for the scenery to get more accurate and impressive over the years. I'm hoping they would go for a subscription model when it comes to the monetization side. That would give them a nice incentive to keep developing the sim. I would be happy to support them with something like 10-15€/month as long as we'd see them updating the sim and keep bringing new features and improvements over the years. 

Edited January 28, 20206 yr by Kopteeni

Sorry, but I totally disagree with you on the subscribsion idea. That's the one thing that absolutely will keep me from buying MSFS if that was the only solution. Luckily MS has several times said that it will be possible to buy the sim, just like any other sim out there, and the only subscribsion model will be if people want to sign up to MS's gamepass, which gives the possibility to download dozens of other games. But no subskribtion (YEAH) , whether it's the all online, the cached or the offline version of MSFS

8 minutes ago, jlund said:

Sorry, but I totally disagree with you on the subscribsion idea. That's the one thing that absolutely will keep me from buying MSFS if that was the only solution. Luckily MS has several times said that it will be possible to buy the sim, just like any other sim out there, and the only subscribsion model will be if people want to sign up to MS's gamepass, which gives the possibility to download dozens of other games. But no subskribtion (YEAH) , whether it's the all online, the cached or the offline version of MSFS

The world is changing... Microsoft Office - subscription, Adobe Photoshop-subscription etc

This may just be the way it is going to be.. You used to be able to purchase the above.. no more.

10 minutes ago, jlund said:

Sorry, but I totally disagree with you on the subscribsion idea. That's the one thing that absolutely will keep me from buying MSFS if that was the only solution. Luckily MS has several times said that it will be possible to buy the sim, just like any other sim out there, and the only subscribsion model will be if people want to sign up to MS's gamepass, which gives the possibility to download dozens of other games. But no subskribtion (YEAH) , whether it's the all online, the cached or the offline version of MSFS

Well we agree to disagree, I guess. To me it's always been a shame when a great game is released but with some lacking features that would have made it a true classic and no incentives for the developers to take it forward when they've already made their cash.

Not quite true, you can still buy MS office 365 as a stand alone prg, Yes, Adobe is subscription and maybe that's the way other prgs also will be in the future. I'm just saying I will NEVER buy a GAME with a monthly fee no matter how good it is.  

Edited January 28, 20206 yr by jlund

"no incentives for the developers to take it forward"

And why would you think that MS won't go forward after the release? If you have seen different videos and read diffrent articles, they have clearly stated that they're in it for the long haul, so I have every confidence in them continuing to develop and improve it, even without subscription.

1 hour ago, jlund said:

Yes, Adobe is subscription and maybe that's the way other prgs also will be in the future. I'm just saying I will NEVER buy a GAME with a monthly fee no matter how good it is.  

Same here and that's the reason why I'm stuck with Phototshop CS5.

45 minutes ago, jlund said:

"no incentives for the developers to take it forward"

And why would you think that MS won't go forward after the release? If you have seen different videos and read diffrent articles, they have clearly stated that they're in it for the long haul, so I have every confidence in them continuing to develop and improve it, even without subscription.

I would really like to believe it but at the end of the day they're out here trying to make a profit for the share holders and might easily decide that the sim is good enough at v1.0 and focus on something completely different with more revenue potential.

I don't see why subscription would be the only way to go to generate continuous revenus. There are tons of addons they can sell during the lifetime of MSFS, such as airplanes, missions, an embedded store for third party content, while they keep improving the core engine/data for free.

Edited January 28, 20206 yr by divide

Don't forget that the objective is to be good for the simmers and also the general public. The general public like to buy everything that is purely cosmetic like paintings etc...
They can make a lot of money on it

and it's part of economic model for the game elite dangerous.

This example is good in the sense that the game is sold without subscription and there are servers. And the online shop sells textures  for ships. It doesn't make players more powerful, it's purely cosmetic, but it works.

They can sell voice pack etc....