Just now, martin-w said:

 

You know what I mean. You referred to masks being officially ISSUED and mandatory. Like they are in some other countries. As I explained, it's not feasible in the US or UK. Because the countries that do that, like South Korea, stockpiled supplies well before the crisis took hold. In addition, they wore masks anyway, prior to the nCov pandemic. So have the manufacturing capability to do that.

I'm repeating myself now. 

You really think the united states cannot produce masks for 300,000,000 people if it wanted to?

The USA probably could, but how long would it take to make that quantity and then distribute it to each and every household? I mean Fedex and UPS are big, but...

33 minutes ago, martin-w said:

 

No its NOT a story about a non story...

Boris Johnson is now in intensive care. The article I linked to was correct.

Not when he did a live broadcast today, they would never have let if he was in intensive care, once again fake news the media like sensational sells more.

2 minutes ago, G-RFRY said:

Not when he did a live broadcast today, they would never have let if he was in intensive care, once again fake news the media like sensational sells more.

lets see if its true, german news report it since two hours he is in ICU.

4 minutes ago, G-RFRY said:

Not when he did a live broadcast today, they would never have let if he was in intensive care, once again fake news the media like sensational sells more.

Fake News claims are mindless and dangerous. I have read at lest 6 outlets its true even your beloved BBC!

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-52192604

29 minutes ago, KevinAu said:

You really think the united states cannot produce masks for 300,000,000 people if it wanted to?

Will the west learn from this major western company`s having factory's  in china more profit, china put a block on medical exports when it hit china.

A typical producer of it in china is capable of pushing out millions, daily. In theory, if the federal government performed its theoretical role of providing for the collective defense, it has tools such as a defense production act it could use to order anybody, such as Boeing, to convert its production capability to whatever the government deems necessary, such as tanks, bombers, can openers, or masks. With an internal rail, highway, and aviation infrastructure like no other, distribution is not an issue either. Should the federal government decide to use it.

3 minutes ago, Adrian123 said:

Fake News claims are mindless and dangerous. I have read at lest 6 outlets its true even your beloved BBC!

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-52192604

Well he`s did not look that bad today.

And we know the BBC always unbiased and truthful.  

Of course, Raymond. 

I'm not suggesting the story is fake, but one thing which absolutely is fake for sure, is this BBC news report at approximately 4:06 minutes in. Have a look at reporter vicki young, allegedly outside the hospital where the PM is. She quite clearly is not there at all and is in front of a green screen with some footage of the hospital projected behind her; compare the focus and clarity of her to the cars and vans passing behind her in the composited in footage and the lighting levels on her in comparison to the scenery. I've seen more convincing compositing in a 1970s Godzilla movie. 🤣

Thing is, I taught a lot of people who work on the BBC news production team at Salford Quays, in how to use After Effects and Premiere Pro, so I know they know how to do it properly. If I see some of those people, I'm gonna pull them up about this one, although in fairness, I think most of them work on the Breakfast news, so not this report as far as I'm aware. It's embarrassingly bad!

Edited April 6, 20206 yr by Chock

7 minutes ago, Chock said:

I'm not suggesting the story is fake, but one thing which absolutely is fake for sure, is this BBC news report at approximately 4:06 minutes in.

It's known as depth of field and it gets shallower as you open up your lens in low light.  That looks like every low-light video shot I ever supervised at my hospital (which was another one of my jobs - ask me about the time I threw John Johnson of ABC and his crew out the ambulance bay doors after they tried to film patients who hadn't given consent).

For everybody else crying "fake news" because Boris Johnson did an interview before going into the ICU - one of the characteristics of the disease is how quickly people crash once they get into respiratory distress.  It can be a matter of an hour or two from the ambulance call to the ventilator. 

1 hour ago, TuFun said:

Sure hope this is not the case also.

Mysterious Heart Damage, Not Just Lung Troubles, Befalling COVID-19 Patients

There are a lot of effects we're finding out about apart from the respiratory issues.  I heard a report today about strokes (including in a 30 year-old) as a result of the impact of the virus on clotting.  There are also cognitive issues, suggesting it can cross into the brain under certain circumstances.  Warnings have gone up recommending a COVID test for anyone who presents with cognitive issues, even in the absence of respiratory distress.

This is one seriously dangerous pathogen.

14 minutes ago, Alan_A said:

It's known as depth of field and it gets shallower as you open up your lens in low light.  That looks like every low-light video shot I ever supervised at my hospital (which was another one of my jobs - ask me about the time I threw John Johnson of ABC and his crew out the ambulance bay doors after they tried to film patients who hadn't given consent).

For everybody else crying "fake news" because Boris Johnson did an interview before going into the ICU - one of the characteristics of the disease is how quickly people crash once they get into respiratory distress.  It can be a matter of an hour or two from the ambulance call to the ventilator. 

That's not a depth of field effect. Trust me, I've lectured on this actually at the BBC and I know what cameras they use and what focal lengths they have. And if you read my comment, you will note I'm not saying the story is fake. I'm saying the shot is blagged, because it is and I know that because I know what to look for and how to avoid it for movie production. That's one of the many reasons why I was the lead trainer at the largest video and film effects training company in Europe for over ten years.

Edited April 6, 20206 yr by Chock

31 minutes ago, Chock said:

Trust me, I've lectured on this actually at the BBC

OK.

Follow-up question, then - what would be their reason for doing that?

Oh it's nothing sinister, it's probably more to do with social distancing rules currently in force in the UK making it difficult to get the shot they would have liked. Let's put it this way, if you went to the Houses of Parliament on the day of Brexit, there was literally a queue of TV people trying to get on that bit of lawn where all the O/B news people go, but that was fine because they could all just maneuver a bit and be quite close to one another in order to get a shot with the Westminster Clock Tower or Parliament Hall in the background for their news report, and there were no restrictions in place on travel for anything other than essential reasons at that time as there are now.

But fast forward to now, where there is literally a situation in the UK where everyone has been ordered to stay at least 2m apart from one another and we are not supposed to be making any trips which are not considered 'essential' - i.e. you can go shopping for food or other essentials, go out to exercise, or go to work if your work is considered critical, but apart from that, and a few other minor exceptions, you are supposed to be staying in. In fact, Scotland's Chief Medical Officer, Catherine Calderwood, had to resign yesterday after it was discovered that she was making trips between two of her houses which were not 'essential' when she'd been one of the Government's representatives who was telling people to adhere to those restrictions, so when it turned out she was flouting them, she had to fall on her sword.

So you can imagine the flak the Beeb would get if they were sending an entire O/B film crew down to the hospital just to stand outside and get a nice shot with a reporter there for no really good reason other than a backdrop, when it could be more easily done by sending one person down there with a phone camera to shoot a bit of footage out of the window of a car so it could be composited into a studio shot. Most people probably wouldn't notice it had been done that way, so it hardly matters really. I just found it amusing that it looked a bit cack.

To be fair though, having worked in news and features myself, I know there is no such thing as 'sorry we could not do it' when there is a deadline and the editor wants something, so you have to 'get creative' sometimes. If I had a quid for the number of times either myself or someone from my family posed for shots used for stuff we were reporting, I'd be rich. My mum was a favourite to use if we needed a shot of a pensioner for stuff and so we often went around to her house and shot her doing various things - she still jokes with me about her 'modeling career' because of that and it is why I stuck her in my Realturb Volmet review the other day, as part of that ongoing joke between us. Our camera guy when I worked at the Guardian - Tony - was a favourite for playing tough guys or criminals in shots we needed, because he was well built and looked like he'd be quite handy in a fight etc. Having a pony tail, I always got the job if we needed someone who looked a bit poncy and arty.

Improvising like that happens all the time. I can tell you that if you watch BBC Breakfast news and they throw in the shot of blurred passers-by behind any statistics they put up on screen, that footage was shot by one of my mates on her iPhone 4 a few years ago on the way in to work at the Beeb at Salford Quays one day because she knew it was needed, and now it gets used all the time for that purpose because there is no point in bothering to shoot anything else instead, so a lot of it isn't even done on a fancy camera at all.

 

Edited April 6, 20206 yr by Chock