July 14, 20205 yr Moderator 20 hours ago, united001 said: Bert ... the Microsoft store is in no way user friendly. What I stumbled upon, was simply starting over (after purchase, obviously). I pressed the "Install/Play" button and because this initial download is very small, it quickly started again and refreshed itself in seconds, the result I already posted. I cannot imagine I am anyone special to have had this happen. Do keep trying! I had the same thing happen yesterday as I went to complete my pre-order installation. After pressing F5 to refresh my screen, I as able to successfully complete the process. I have now linked the "Launcher" to my Task Bar so that on midnight of the 17th I just need to click one taskbar icon to get started. 😄 Fr. Bill AOPA Member: 07141481 AARP Member: 3209010556 Avsim Board of Directors | Avsim Forums Moderator
July 14, 20205 yr Author 1 minute ago, n4gix said: I had the same thing happen yesterday as I went to complete my pre-order installation. After pressing F5 to refresh my screen, I as able to successfully complete the process. I have now linked the "Launcher" to my Task Bar so that on midnight of the 17th I just need to click one taskbar icon to get started. 😄 One more thing you might consider, is to move the "app" off the C drive to its own SSD prior to the "Big Bang"... App Settings \ Move in Windows. Bert
July 14, 20205 yr I'm testing the Alpha and this is definitely not MS Flight 2.0 or anything like it. And surely not just because of issues with the shopping cart...
July 14, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, threegreen said: I'm testing the Alpha and this is definitely not MS Flight 2.0 or anything like it. And surely not just because of issues with the shopping cart... I think it's been clear from the release announcement that this was not Ms Flight 2.0, though I know there was a lot of bitterness towards MS here about a year back due to that less-than-successful game. Asobo have always given every indication that they are trying to keep a typical Avsimmer happy, whilst also appealing to a broader audience. Flight was different, as the dev team had a pretty negative attitude towards the traditional flight sim fans. The shopping cart is a minor frustration, but I'm confident that Asobo were not in charge or programming it! Oz Sim Rig: MSI RTX3090 Suprim, an old, partly-melted Intel 9900K @ 5GHz+, Honeycomb Alpha, Thrustmaster TPR Rudder, Warthog HOTAS, Reverb G2, Prosim 737 cockpit. Currently flying: MSFS: PMDG 737-700, Fenix A320, Leonardo MD-82, MIlviz C310, Flysimware C414AW, DC Concorde, Carenado C337. Prepar3d v5: PMDG 737/747/777. "There are three simple rules for making a smooth landing. Unfortunately, no one knows what they are."
July 14, 20205 yr Author 11 minutes ago, OzWhitey said: The shopping cart is a minor frustration, but I'm confident that Asobo were not in charge or programming it! I am sure you are right.. but at some point we will be interacting with Microsoft XBox / Store / Apps / Support again, just like we did with Flight. I hope that Microsoft learned a lesson last time through.. XBox Games still has a "culture" all their own, it would appear... But I am prepared to be impressed. 😉 Edited July 14, 20205 yr by Bert Pieke Bert
July 14, 20205 yr Wait until someone triggers a hacking service targeting your XBL account name and gets your account, and all your purchases, lost forever... I've experienced this but it goes to deaf ears... Edited July 14, 20205 yr by RXP
July 14, 20205 yr 21 hours ago, Bert Pieke said: It seems that MS does not play by the rules of other application vendors.. ps. I am still looking for traces of FS 2020 on my system.. the shortcut does not point to a file location, but a cryptic app ID. @Bert Pieke Look inside C:\Program Files\WindowsApps You would need to give Yourself permission to open and browse that folder. (Not easy though) Edited July 14, 20205 yr by RamonB Ramón. Time, is the one thing no one can buy.
July 14, 20205 yr Does it mean we have to have Microsoft account on Windows 10 to install/run MSFS? I always use standard local user account instead of logging to Windows via Microsoft account. Cheers! Edited July 14, 20205 yr by AdiR Adrian
July 14, 20205 yr 36 minutes ago, RamonB said: @Bert Pieke Look inside C:\Program Files\WindowsApps You would need to give Yourself permission to open and browse that folder. (Not easy though) It sure isn't easy. I gave up on it. However, I found the program under my Start Menu...under Microsoft Store. The purchase is located there. Click on it and you'll see the Play command. It says it isn't ready, but you can pin it to your taskbar if you wish. Stan
July 14, 20205 yr 15 minutes ago, AdiR said: Does it mean we have to have Microsoft account on Windows 10 to install/run MSFS? I always use standard local user account instead of logging to Windows via Microsoft account. Cheers! You need a Microsoft account to use the Microsoft Store, which is where MSFS will be distributed. As far as I'm aware, you can still log into the Microsoft Store with a Microsoft account, regardless of whether or not you have a local user on Windows.
July 14, 20205 yr 6 hours ago, Chock said: MS Flight all over again - gosh I hope so! I don't know about you guys, but personally, the notion of being able to do a low pass over the tower at EGGC in my B747, in order to pick up the power-up bubble floating above the tower to upgrade my engines and refuel me all in one go, will add some much-needed realism to my flight sims which has been sorely lacking with things like the FSL A320 in P3D. 🤣 Well... If it makes you feel any better, I'm guessing I would not be breaking the NDA to say that I haven't run into anything like that. i9-10850K, ASUS TUF GAMING Z490-PLUS (WI-FI), 32GB G.SKILL DDR4-3603 / PC4-28800, GIGABYTE RTX5080 16GB WF OC 3 FAN running 3440x1440
July 14, 20205 yr On 7/13/2020 at 12:06 PM, Will Fly For Cheese said: Bert, I know you like the PA-34 Seminole as much as I do - which is a lot. Can you start work on bringing it in to this please. PA-44 Life time flight sim enthusiast, current airplane owner 172P (past C182F). FAA CP/IR ASEL/AMEL, FI ASELMy System: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D , MSI X870 GAMING PLUS, 64G RAM, ASUS RTX5090, 4T SSDPut my hands on (pic/dual/given)7GCAA, 8KCAB, BE24, BE76, BE35-C33, BE35, C150, C152, C172B/N/P/R/SP, 182F, M20E,M20C, M20J, AT6(SNJ4), PA28-140,PA28-151, PA28-161,PA28-181,PA28RT-201,PA28R-180/201T, PA24-250, PA32-300R, PA44, AC114, YAK-18T, YAK-52, SR22
July 14, 20205 yr Author 2 hours ago, leonardus said: You need a Microsoft account to use the Microsoft Store, which is where MSFS will be distributed. As far as I'm aware, you can still log into the Microsoft Store with a Microsoft account, regardless of whether or not you have a local user on Windows. OK.. here is the critical piece... I could not download the package because "no device was linked to my MS account". The support pages told me that I have to log into my PC via my MS account, which I have never done (ever). So I complied and was able to download the preorder package. No one at XBox Support can tell me whether I can now go back to logging into my PC the old way or not. They seem baffled that I would even consider it 😉 Bert
July 14, 20205 yr 9 minutes ago, Bert Pieke said: OK.. here is the critical piece... I could not download the package because "no device was linked to my MS account". The support pages told me that I have to log into my PC via my MS account, which I have never done (ever). So I complied and was able to download the preorder package. No one at XBox Support can tell me whether I can now go back to logging into my PC the old way or not. They seem baffled that I would even consider it 😉 I didn't have that problem and was able to download while keeping a local account. However this article should be helpful for converting your PC back to a local account: https://www.windowscentral.com/how-switch-local-account-microsoft-account-windows-10
July 14, 20205 yr MS are doing nothing different than Apple in that they do not allow anything on the system that has not gone through them, so a MS account will be needed and i suspect like P3D and a lot of software now days it will phone home to check authentication to stay active. Raymond Fry.
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