August 3, 20205 yr 3 hours ago, 109Sqn said: What shone through from that interview was a genuine feeling of passion about what those guys have been doing, and a pride in their work. It must hurt somewhat when they read some of the more strongly-worded criticisms, especially before the product has even gone to market, but they were good enough to be tactful about what they've read and no doubt used it to a positive end.👍 Considering how deft most corners of the internet are in inciting anger and meanness (especially on social media platforms like Twitter), you'd think that most people interested in MSFS wouldn't be influenced by harsh criticisms of the product from either "experts" or anonymous accounts. Are people really that impressionable? And YouTube is no prize either when it comes to lack of bias. A channel makes money for the owner. Most owners produce helpful videos. Some produce entertainment. But then there are others that spew pure garbage, just to get clicks for cash. Unfortunately, the viewer is forced to use their brain in order to decide on the credibility of a specific video.
August 3, 20205 yr 17 minutes ago, janda said: sorry, my english fails sometimes ... can you briefly write down what they said at the end of the interview? from 22:00 to 23:25 minutes? thanks "During the testing, the download size has become smaller (about 80GB), is that the final size now?" "If you have all the aircraft, it will be bigger than that, probably 150GB" (but he thinks it might be even bigger than that!) Then it is a little harder to interpret, but during Alpha, they had "layers" which they decided to compact down ('squash'). I think he then means that some of the data you download will stay on your PC so you won't need to download the same data each time. They are still working on that which is why they can't give an accurate download size yet. That's as close as I can get!😁 OS: Win11 Home; Mobo: Asus TUF Gaming Z690-Plus WiFi D4; CPU: Intel i5-12400 (Alder Lake) 4.4 GHzRAM: Corsair Vengeance DDR4 64Gb (4x16GB) 3600 MHz; GPU: MSI Radeon RX 5700XT [8GB] SSD: Corsair Force MP510 (for OS); 2x 1TB & 1x 2TB Sabrent Rocket Nvme PCIe 4.0 (one for sim, two for addons)HDD: Seagate 3TB (Data); Seagate 1TB (Programs), ASUS TUF Gaming VG32VQ1B Curved 31.5" monitor, 1440p, 38Mbs ethernet Fulcrum One Yoke, Honeycomb Bravo throttle, Thrustmaster Airbus TCA sidestick & throttle, Logitech Pro pedals, Xbox wireless gamepad (1st gen)
August 3, 20205 yr 5 minutes ago, jabloomf1230 said: ... you'd think that most people interested in MSFS wouldn't be influenced by harsh criticisms of the product from either "experts" or anonymous accounts. Are people really that impressionable? ... I wasn't suggesting they'd be impressionable, but I think as a software developer (particularly in the 'gaming' industry) you need to have a thick skin. Still, there must be times when people wonder "Why do we bother?" when they see or hear certain comments*. As I say, they are too professional to let that put them off doing their job. (*And that could apply to most jobs of course). OS: Win11 Home; Mobo: Asus TUF Gaming Z690-Plus WiFi D4; CPU: Intel i5-12400 (Alder Lake) 4.4 GHzRAM: Corsair Vengeance DDR4 64Gb (4x16GB) 3600 MHz; GPU: MSI Radeon RX 5700XT [8GB] SSD: Corsair Force MP510 (for OS); 2x 1TB & 1x 2TB Sabrent Rocket Nvme PCIe 4.0 (one for sim, two for addons)HDD: Seagate 3TB (Data); Seagate 1TB (Programs), ASUS TUF Gaming VG32VQ1B Curved 31.5" monitor, 1440p, 38Mbs ethernet Fulcrum One Yoke, Honeycomb Bravo throttle, Thrustmaster Airbus TCA sidestick & throttle, Logitech Pro pedals, Xbox wireless gamepad (1st gen)
August 3, 20205 yr 28 minutes ago, jabloomf1230 said: Unfortunately, the viewer is forced to use their brain in order to decide on the credibility You do realize this applies to everything you hear, see or read, right? 😄 I mean, why should Youtube videos be any different. "Don't believe everything you read. Not even this." Hook Larry Hookins Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of EarthAnd danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;
August 3, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, jabloomf1230 said: A channel makes money for the owner. Most owners produce helpful videos. Some produce entertainment. But then there are others that spew pure garbage, just to get clicks for cash. Unfortunately, the viewer is forced to use their brain in order to decide on the credibility of a specific video. Not all youtube channels make money for the owner even if the desire is there for them to do so. It used to be the case that you could monetise your channel with a much different criteria than is the case these days, I think when I was offered the right to do that, years ago, it was based on how long you'd had your channel and a specific number of views, which also granted you removal of a video length upload limit. Presently the threshold for monetisation of your Youtube content via inserted ad breaks, is that you have to have a minimum of 1,000 subscribers to your channel, although you can still make money with less subs than that indirectly, if for example you have a sponsor for your videos, although that depends on the sponsorship deal, which is often free goods or store credits, rather than actual cash. I suppose you could sell the freebies, but it's not really what most people are after when they are aiming to make money off a channel. This is why there are so many 'click bait' videos about the new MS sim, most of which are complete and utter garbage; it's lots of people attempting to gain that magic 1,000 subs number so they can start throwing ads all over the thing and make money, or just an excuse to have anything clickable on the hot topic so an advert will run. What they forget however, is that to actually make money consistently, you do have to create decent content which people will watch and come back for more, so the ads get viewed by sufficient numbers of people to garner the cash they are after. It has also changed in recent months too, in that now you have to specify when you upload your video, whether it is suitable for minors or not, and this has a bearing on whether you can monetise it as well. I steadfastly refused to make any new MS sim videos by chucking together a few clips of the thing because I absolutely despise that kind of rubbish, even though I probably could have made some cash off it. I've got one in the pipeline about it, but it is contingent upon the release of the sim and further developments. Expect a big wave of videos on release day too, because the algorithm which throws up 'suggestions' based on your viewing habits and what is a hot topic, will almost certainly have prompted the production (and I use the word production in the loosest sense) of loads of utter garbage knocked up in a matter of minutes being offered as suggested viewing on the day of release, again as people try to get those clicks and subscribers. But that's youtube for you. Edited August 3, 20205 yr by Chock Alan Bradbury Check out my youtube flight sim videos: Here
August 3, 20205 yr Thx for sharing the interview but let me give some constructive personal feedback. If you do an interview we want to hear the people beeing interviewed talking and not you. But here combined with your slow speaking speed out of 26min I hear you talk 10+. Waste of time, one could squash triple the amount of questions into the same time frame. I also didn’t like the questions asked as they were mostly uninteresting but that’s a personal thing maybe. Lukas Dalton
August 3, 20205 yr 1 minute ago, DaWu said: Thx for sharing the interview but let me give some constructive personal feedback. If you do an interview we want to hear the people beeing interviewed talking and not you. But here combined with your slow speaking speed out of 26min I hear you talk 10+. Waste of time, one could squash triple the amount of questions into the same time frame. I also didn’t like the questions asked as they were mostly uninteresting but that’s a personal thing maybe. Boo... Hiss...😉 I learned a lot from this interview.. so there.. Bert
August 3, 20205 yr The one factor to understand is that through plenty of research into consumer behavior, it has been determined that one negative comment or review is equal to perhaps 10 positive reviews. In other words, negativity has a far drastic impact than positivity in consumer behavior. FSX | DCS | X-Plane 11 | MSFS 2020 | IL2:BoX Favorite aircraft currently: MSFS Savage Cub
August 3, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, jabloomf1230 said: Considering how deft most corners of the internet are in inciting anger and meanness (especially on social media platforms like Twitter), you'd think that most people interested in MSFS wouldn't be influenced by harsh criticisms of the product from either "experts" or anonymous accounts. Are people really that impressionable? And YouTube is no prize either when it comes to lack of bias. A channel makes money for the owner. Most owners produce helpful videos. Some produce entertainment. But then there are others that spew pure garbage, just to get clicks for cash. Unfortunately, the viewer is forced to use their brain in order to decide on the credibility of a specific video. Some people are influenced by it.. Alot of people have already made up their minds (either to buy or not buy MFS in this case)... but someone on the fence may be persuaded to avoid MFS because of something he/she saw online. Especially if its a source they trust but even if its random content but seems sincere. [XP11 BETA/FS2020 BETA] [Pilotedge BETA/Vatsim BETA]
August 3, 20205 yr 5 hours ago, 109Sqn said: What shone through from that interview was a genuine feeling of passion about what those guys have been doing, and a pride in their work. It must hurt somewhat when they read some of the more strongly-worded criticisms, especially before the product has even gone to market, but they were good enough to be tactful about what they've read and no doubt used it to a positive end.👍 Good post. It's one thing to criticize bugs and give feedback. It's another to make cynical arguments that this is a money grab "Xbox game" by Asobo or some of the other nonsense I've seen lately here and on the beta forums. You don't spend resources on real weather, live traffic, advancing ATC functionality, trying to simulate FMCs, etc. if the goal is to just make GTA5 with world-wide scenery. Regardless of how successful they've been to this point, the developers clearly have a passion and desire to make this the most advanced sim we've ever seen. I'm willing to sit back and give them the chance to finish what they've started. Edited August 3, 20205 yr by bonchie
August 3, 20205 yr Interesting interview. Was nice to hear about the blocking they did. Alan Bradbury Check out my youtube flight sim videos: Here
August 3, 20205 yr Thanks so much for conducting and posting that interview. Looks like this time around we have some really dedicated, passionate, talented developers who really listened to the community. I was especially glad to hear about some limited legacy aircraft compatibility. Dave Edited August 3, 20205 yr by dave2013 Simulator: P3Dv6.1 System Specs: Intel i7 13700K CPU, MSI Mag Z790 Tomahawk Motherboard, 32GB DDR5 6000MHz RAM, Nvidia GeForce RTX 4070 Video Card, 3x 1TB Samsung 980 Pro M.2 2280 SSDs, Windows 11 Home OS My website for P3D stuff: https://sites.google.com/view/thep3dfiles/home
August 3, 20205 yr Thanks for the interview. I also thought the interviewer used too much of the speaking time, and the questions weren't all that interesting, but in the end I appreciate it anyway. I didn't like that it wasn't on youtube, but instead used dropbox. It makes for an unneeded threshold for people to overcome when wanting to listen. The BOD should immidately decide to put future video content on youtube which is the norm nowadays. Also, I was a little surprised that the hot topics in the avsim forums weren't used more as speaking points. Andreas Stangenes http://www.youtube.com/user/krsans78 Add me on gamertag: Bullhorns78
August 3, 20205 yr 2 hours ago, Andreas Stangenes said: Also, I was a little surprised that the hot topics in the avsim forums weren't used more as speaking points. I could imagine that MS doesn‘t want to discuss hot topics at this point. Belgeode said in one of his latest videos that MS wanted him to make sure that his viewers understand that it‘s a preview video and not a review video because MSFS is still in beta and some things might look different in the release version. This would also explain the general focus of the press/youtubers on the shiny sides of the sim (of which there are plenty!) and why there seems to be a tendency to avoid mentioning obvious shortcomings (which exist as well, otherwise it would’t be „the beginning“ of a 10 years project). Just speculating. Great interview and I also love the devs‘ enthusiasm. Edited August 3, 20205 yr by Shack95 i9-11900K, RTX 4090, 32 GB ram, Honeycomb Alpha and Bravo, TCA Airbus sidestick and quadrant, Reverb G2
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