5 hours ago, Der Zeitgeist said:

I would be happy if everything with the G1000 works as it did in FSX in addition to the new stuff like synthetic vision, but there's still some functions missing.

Wait.. is the default g1000 that comes with fsx steam edition different?

Because for me the g1000 looked OK but required the flight planner to do everything including waypoint entry.. the soft keys that it did have did work but.. honestly i flew slant alpha most of the time because i want to be able to enter waypoints directly into the GPS and adjust it on the fly if needed.

 

2 hours ago, dave2013 said:

Like I said in another thread, this will not be a version 1.0 release, but rather like a release candidate or late stage beta.  The developers even stated that they are counting on user feedback after release, which is good news really.

They have still not implemented seasonal changes except for snow.

There was no mention of AI traffic other than liveries and even that is uncertain due to pending licensing issues.  We also won't have custom AI traffic schedules, just live traffic.

There are no cirrus clouds, which I was very surprised to hear.

There are still issues with tree height that have yet to be resolved.

There are still some issues with the ATC. 

A bit disappointing to hear, and I could keep nitpicking, but that's not my intention.  Just making the point that this thing is not fully developed yet, so no one should expect everything to work perfectly out of the box so to speak.

I really like the developer team and I'm confident that these issues will eventually get sorted out, just not by August 18.

Dave

When you say "We also won't have custom AI traffic schedules, just live traffic," do you mean Asobo won't develop custom traffic schedules, but third party devs like AIG still can right?

I like the part about updating the scenery. He told the story about a tester flying in Utah and found a massive hole in the ground that was even on being maps, but they fixed it in sim. They also talked about water around islands. 

It sounds like you could fly over an area that isn't 100% accurate, a couple months later you could fly over the same place and it's fixed. Streaming is truly amazing, even though I was nervous about it the first several months after MSFS was announced. 

They also mentioned the 37,000 airports but there may be even more! like small grass strips that don't show in the world map. That sounds like a treat for the bush guys.

"We also won't have custom AI traffic schedules, just live traffic," 

I thought live traffic were on schedules that is why they call it live traffic. In the x plane live traffic addon I check Live ATC and flight radar to see what runway's they are using as active sky and the flight planners can give the wrong information. Was thinking that is how its going to work.

An incomplete default airplane can more difficult to fly as I want to hit CMD at 400 ft after take off and look at the scenery.

 

8 hours ago, B777ER said:

Can you say on which ones it's working very well?

 

7 hours ago, snglecoil said:

Sounds like they have done additional work on the g1000. At this point the non-internal testers would risk giving outdated information and cause more harm than good.

Chris is right, it doesn't make sense to speculate about specific units or their functions at this point, as we testers are now several builds behind the release version. The most reasonable thing would be to not expect perfect functionality, and maybe we'll get a pleasant suprise.

5 hours ago, Wewk584 said:

Because for me the g1000 looked OK but required the flight planner to do everything including waypoint entry.. 

Yes, that's what I was referring to. And the flight planner could not be accessed when already in a flight.

11 hours ago, dobee51 said:

What is the problem with doors not opening?

Watch the stream and you will know.

The default aircraft will no doubt see months or even years of bug fixes, tweaks, and expansions to some of the functionality.  Pretty sure the G1000 functionality and autopilot issues are even on their roadmap as "in progress" right now.

All of the simmers I've been watching with the preview build look like they were having a more-than-decent time with the default commercial jets, aside from the avionics and AP issues.  Once those are sorted, I think they'll be solid default aircraft.

They were very clear in stating that there will be no differences regarding content or update frequency when it comes to Steam/MS Store versions (around the 22 min mark).

Very reassuring as dividing the community, like what happens with DCS, is not a good idea!

Edited August 14, 20205 yr by GCBraun

12 hours ago, RamonB said:

Isn't that sad Bert? All those gorgeous looking default airplanes parked in the hangar, used as doorstops!

i think you have that very wrong. there is a whole truckload of casual players,(you wont see them here) that fly the default

planes happily.

 

5 minutes ago, wim123 said:

i think you have that very wrong. there is a whole truckload of casual players,(you wont see them here) that fly the default

planes happily.

 

You got it wrong. I wasn’t talking just about default planes to Bert. I was talking about default crippled and dumbed down planes by design.

I mostly agree with the rest of your comment, however, even gamers and casual simmers deserve better.

2 hours ago, wim123 said:

i think you have that very wrong. there is a whole truckload of casual players,(you wont see them here) that fly the default planes happily

I’m here and I’ll fly the default planes quite happily. I see absolutely no reason to by a study level version of any of the default planes. I’ll buy addon planes only if they are new types or versions (e.g., with floats).

1 minute ago, Bottle said:

I’m here and I’ll fly the default planes quite happily. I see absolutely no reason to by a study level version of any of the default planes. I’ll buy addon planes only if they are new types or versions (e.g., with floats).

Same. I've been a flight simmer for 20 years. Love airliners, GA, fighter jets and helicopters. Basically anything that flies. Button pushing for the sake of button pushing has never interested me so I never bought most of the 3rd party study level airliners.

There are many like me.

Same: while I like "simming" I've not enough time - nor need for my own satisfaction - to go much beyond what were the "default" planes.

i.e.: in FSX/P3D I did buy the PMDG 737NGX, got to a decent level of knowledge of it (in my own judgement at least) but then found it was not what I wanted to fly every single time I was able to seat in front of the PC.

Also I've no RL flying experiences so flight model accuracy is not something I can value/enjoy much.

I actually found myself flying "lower level" addons (i.e. F1 B200 and similar), being anyway bothered by the need to regularly invest money (and time) for keeping scenery and airports level at least satisfying.

Default planes in MSFS look to likely be on par with "light addons" I previously had to buy.

I guess "pure gamers" are much much more than "light-simmers" like me; light-simmers I think are much much more than "hard-simmers".

So while I can understand people with vast  experience both in real and in simulated flying expressing their doubts over the current state of MSFS and the strategy described by MS/Asobo, I do think them are very adeguate for me and for a huge number of other customer, therefore I feel the attitude of Asobo is likely the best one on the long run "for the hobby" in general...

Edited August 14, 20205 yr by Marco Manieri

13 hours ago, EKRA01 said:

When you say "We also won't have custom AI traffic schedules, just live traffic," do you mean Asobo won't develop custom traffic schedules, but third party devs like AIG still can right?

They haven't said anything about being able to make custom AI traffic schedules.  They just tout the live traffic, which is great if you happen to be flying at your current time and date, but what if it's nighttime but I want to recreate a flight from early that morning?  The traffic will be wrong for the flight.  This may not matter to many, but for those of us who want ultimate realism during our flights it's important.  They should be able to archive 24 hours of the live flight data so it will be possible to fly with the actual traffic for the time of the flight.

So we don't actually need the ability to make custom schedules as long as the live traffic includes *all* traffic and has the past 24 hours archived.  Of course, for those wanting to have historical AI traffic, like from years or months in the past, this wouldn't help.

It would still be useful to be able to make custom schedules, however.

Dave

Edited August 14, 20205 yr by dave2013