And what’s with NO LIGHTING on the buildings at night ... or at least for major landmarks and VFR checkpoints!

6 minutes ago, pjweihs said:

LMFAO! My whole point is if you look on a sectional and are trying to use pilotage (and/or scud-running) then POWERLINES are a clear standout for both navigation importance and a safety factor to AVOID in a SIMULATOR ... if you want a GAME then fine go play DCS or whatever you want but otherwise don’t go around saying “as real as it gets” non-sense! That was such a joke marketing hype. To me a simulator is about fidelity in flight model and systems AND if you are going to make grandiose claims like Microsoft then it’s a FAIR and important Comment / observation. And in my opinion represents POOR marketing not to match your competitor if you are doing a NEXT GEN product like this!
 

 Gee-wize graphics are SECOND ... but if you are going to sell it based graphics then you sure as hell need to model what’s IMPORTANT over EYE-CANDY. Sectionals show BIG YELLOW BLOB not MY HOUSE but they sure as hell show POWERLINES ... FRONT AND CENTER ... for a reason!

Just what we needed. Another rant about calling MSFS a "game" because of some missing aspect they said is coming while ignoring the 10 other things MSFS adds the other sims don't have.

If you think it's easier to fly VFR in the other sims, more power to you I suppose.

Edited August 20, 20205 yr by bonchie

3 minutes ago, pjweihs said:

And what’s with NO LIGHTING on the buildings at night ... or at least for major landmarks and VFR checkpoints!

Buildings are lit at night. Best to just ask for a refund.

They are lit by STREETLAMPS ... case in point in the Bay Area we have a Mormon Temple as a major VFR Check point and at night it’s lit up like a Xmas tree you literally CANT MISS IT! Unless you are in this new NEXT GEN SIM!

I prefer to have power lines.

There is one leg of the Cannibal Queen flight where the author flies up a power line to navigate.  It's on the charts, it's in P3D, I flew up it in a Stearman.

Power lines and radio towers (and probably more like factory "stacks") are in a file called hazards.bgl in FSX/P3D.  That data is missing in MSFS.

Well, at least we can use the power line right-of-way for now as those stand out pretty well.  Hope we get our hazards soon.

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Power lines are absolutely a navigation aid when flying visually.   Not optional in a sim.  But I don't doubt they will be addressed in the coming months.

Edited September 9, 20205 yr by StevePHL

On 8/19/2020 at 2:40 AM, monica6211 said:

Powerlines and radio towers are what I'm really missing at the moment. Still, this sim is amazing.

I'm glad to know I'm not the only one missing the radio towers. I can kinda give a free pass on the power lines (I'm assuming the OP is talking about those huge high voltage transmission lines, not street poles), but the towers a crucial thing to leave out of a sim.

That said, I do hope the power lines are also added later. I can clearly see where they are on the ground (you can see the wires in the texture), so it shouldn't be a big deal to add them. I'd also like to have proper railroads with trains, please please please!

On 8/19/2020 at 12:44 AM, pjweihs said:

How in the world do you develop and release a flight simulator intended for VFR navigation an low altitude hazards and NOT have POWERLINES!

They need to fire their technical consultants! Seriously. X-plane gets this point and has them. Guys did you even bother to look at your competition? Or even a Sectional with ANY detail? Seriously!

I suggest you post a new thread over here:

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/c/self-service/bugs-issues/159

Then we can all "upvote" it. The issues on that specific forum all have blue vote buttons at the top and the issues which get the most votes are given a higher priority by the devs.

No transmission towers either.

2 hours ago, StevePHL said:

Power lines are absolutely a navigation aid when flying visually.   Not optional in a sim.  But I don't doubt they will be addressed in the coming months.

I've been flying for around 20 years and have never used power lines once for VFR navigation! I did use freeways though a lot!

On 8/19/2020 at 6:44 AM, pjweihs said:

Seriously!

Surely you are being ironic. The lack of power lines in a computer program is not making you this upset?

Seriously?

well...we do have the Godzilla mod we can navigate by

In P3D, power lines and antenna towers are not embedded in the scenery. They all come from a single file “hazards.bgl”. I’m curious if MSFS will eventually implement something similar. 

Power lines can be important VFR navigation landmarks. At my local airport, there is a row of high voltage transmission towers located west of the field, and which are exactly parallel with the main runway and exactly the right horizontal distance for a typical downwind leg for a GA aircraft For 40+ years, all locally based pilots have known to simply follow the power line towers on a right downwind for runway 24. Also, there is a short radio tower on a hill north of the airport that happens to correspond the correct point to turn from the downwind leg to base.

I’m petitioning Asobo to include the occasional stray three legged dog on the runway. Bears, elephants and giraffe, but no dogs?!

On 8/18/2020 at 10:44 PM, pjweihs said:

How in the world do you develop and release a flight simulator intended for VFR navigation an low altitude hazards and NOT have POWERLINES!

They need to fire their technical consultants! Seriously. X-plane gets this point and has them. Guys did you even bother to look at your competition? Or even a Sectional with ANY detail? Seriously!

Come on geez--it's BRAND NEW and XPlane has been around forever.  Give it a break what they have produced is in a class all by itself and is so good it will continue to be supported.