August 20, 20205 yr 14 hours ago, w6kd said: I have a 30Hz monitor (55" TV) and have VSync on and frame rate limiter set to 60. Nice and smooth locked at 30 fps due to the VSync. Did you manually set your Refresh rate to 30Hz? Reason I ask is I am using a plain old 42" 1080P LED TV which is set to 60Hz and I have VSync on and the frame rate limited to 60 which to achieve I have to dial the settings down and can only get this with the smaller GA aircraft. The 152 seems to perform best on my system. Airliners are a disaster lol Richard i7-12700K | Noctua NH-D15S Black Version | MSI Pro Z690 - A | 32 GB DDR4 3600 | Gigabyte Gaming OC 4090 | 1TB WD Blue NMVe (MSFS 2020) | 500 GB WD Black Gen 4 NVMe | 4TB WD Black Conventional | Fractal Design Torrent Case | Seasonic 1000W Gold Plus PSU | Thrustmaster Boeing Yoke | Honeycomb Throttle | Airbus Side Stick | Virpil Rudder Pedals | Sony X90K 55 Inch TV |
August 20, 20205 yr 4 minutes ago, Richdem said: Did you manually set your Refresh rate to 30Hz? Reason I ask is I am using a plain old 42" 1080P LED TV which is set to 60Hz and I have VSync on and the frame rate limited to 60 which to achieve I have to dial the settings down and can only get this with the smaller GA aircraft. I set 30 Hz manually in nVidia Control Panel: Display -> change resolution -> refresh rate The TV syncs to the 30Hz signal automatically. Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
August 20, 20205 yr 35 minutes ago, Nyxx said: I use the NV control to limit MSFS to 30 FPS and with FRAPS ON FPS are locked solid at 30. Also I have a 120 Hz Monitor and If i set VS ON and then I have option for 120/60/30/20 FPS. If I then set to 30 that also limited FPS to 30. But then I don't change settings once I begin. Both work. But it needs fixing if you mess with setting after you begin. But try opening a drop down window in flight.... To change weather or time. When I do that and then close the window, Vert Sync breaks and the FPS shoot up from 60 and go all over the place. I'm running in Full Screen using DP 2.0 cable. I tried a HDMi cable. Same thing. Getting a G sync OLED soon so hopefully it won't be a long term issue ... For me ... but it shouldn't be like this.
August 20, 20205 yr 2 minutes ago, Gabe777 said: But try opening a drop down window in flight.... To change weather or time. When I do that and then close the window, Vert Sync breaks and the FPS shoot up from 60 and go all over the place. I'm running in Full Screen using DP 2.0 cable. I tried a HDMi cable. Same thing. Getting a G sync OLED soon so hopefully it won't be a long term issue ... For me ... but it shouldn't be like this. No I believe you, I just set up a flight with live weather/time and never change anything and all is good. I watched you Vid and I agree it needs fixing. David Murden. MSFS • Fenix A320 • PMDG 737 • MG Honda Jet • 414 / TDS 750Xi • FS-ATC Chatter • FlyingIron Spitfire & ME109G • MG Honda Jet • • Fenix A320 Walkthrough PDF • Flightsim.to • DCS • A10c II • F-16c • F/A-18c • F-14 • (Others in hanger) • Supercarrier • Terrains = • Nevada NTTR • Persian Gulf • Syria • Marianas • • [email protected] All Cores HT ON • 32GB DDR4 3200MHz • RTX 3080 • TM Warthog HOTAS • TM TPR • Corsair Virtuoso XT with Dolby Atmos® • Samsung G7 32" 1440p 240Hz • TrackIR 5 & ProClip •
August 20, 20205 yr 5 minutes ago, w6kd said: I set 30 Hz manually in nVidia Control Panel: Display -> change resolution -> refresh rate The TV syncs to the 30Hz signal automatically. So you cannot run MSFS at 60 FPS locked. You have to limit it to 30 ? OMG. This gets better. I get perfect 60 until I change a setting. Then it breaks.
August 20, 20205 yr Commercial Member With Display port, 30Hz refresh set in NCP and VSYNC=ON in MSFS I see 15 fps with 30 limit in MSFS, and I see 30fps with 60 limit in MSFS. I suspect the same thing is happening on TV monitors with HDMI. So looks like a VSYNC bug. Steve Waite: Engineer at codelegend.com
August 20, 20205 yr Commercial Member Same with 24Hz, getting half that 12fps. So the smoothness is gained from avoiding the frame rate being halved. We should avoid posts that offer a generalisation of setting a higher limit than the monitor refresh which in normal circumstances would not be of any practical value. Steve Waite: Engineer at codelegend.com
August 20, 20205 yr 3 hours ago, SteveW said: Actual fps can be shown in the developer mode Options menu, Display fps. That might be showing "limited by mainthread" and a lower fps selected than the limit value set. How do you get into Developer Mode?
August 20, 20205 yr Commercial Member In Flight, press Escape, then choose General section, then down the list is Developers, set developer mode to on. You get a small menu along the top of screen. In Options, Rendering, choose Display FPS. Steve Waite: Engineer at codelegend.com
August 20, 20205 yr Commercial Member I am finding it better to leave the monitor at 60Hz refresh, on this monitor that is the maximum, other monitors vary. On a 30Hz TV that issue with VSync might come up and although setting is at 60 limit, that is in fact limiting to 30fps, setting 30 limits to 15fps. I am finding it better to leave my monitor at 60Hz refresh to set VSync=On and 30 Limit in MSFS Graphics, Display Settings. Steve Waite: Engineer at codelegend.com
August 20, 20205 yr Commercial Member ...Using the higher refresh if available ensures the shortest possible long frames since there is less time to wait for the next refresh cycle as I already mentioned. Steve Waite: Engineer at codelegend.com
August 20, 20205 yr 5 hours ago, Ianrivaldosmith said: Turn off V-sync if you have a G-Sync monitor, and then enable Gsync for full screen and windowed mode. To be honest, I would never ever go back to a fixed refresh rate monitor, G-Sync blows them away! Specially in this new sim! V-Sync should be turned off in FS2020, but enabled in Nvidia inspector if you have a g-sync monitor. CPU Ryzen 7800X 3D RAM 32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 6000MHz GPU GEFORCE RTX 4090 Monitor AOC AGON AG352UCG UltraWide G-Sync @ 3440x1440 Internal Storage 1TB NVMe PCIe SSD External Storage Three 4Tb HDs
August 20, 20205 yr 6 hours ago, Ianrivaldosmith said: Correct, but using VSYNC in the nvidia control panel, in case you go over your monitors max refresh rate (unlikely in MSFS for most) . You do NOT use Vsync in the application (game) Exactly, which is why I said external vsync. i910900k, RTX 3090, 32GB DDR4 RAM, AW3423DW, Ruddy girt big mug of Yorkshire Tea
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