August 29, 20205 yr Almost to the point you can barely see, too bright. I change settings, lower reflections, bloom to medium, change my monitors settings, but still...when sitting in the cockpit the view outside of the window is as if the sun was right there. As soon as I change to external camera the scenery is normal with beautiful vivid colors and shades. The problem is only from within the cockpit Wonder if anyone had this
August 29, 20205 yr I mean in real life the world is much brighter than what I’ve ever seen simulated before - I like the brightness in the sim because it realistically obstructs your view in a way that requires you to put thought into your timing and location to avoid the sun in your eyes 🙂
August 29, 20205 yr Author It is, i grew up in 707 cockpits so i know. My bed was in it, 707s were among the few passenger jets (even today) to have beds. And I flew everywhere with my father as pilot, But back to the sim, its too much and even when on the ground. So I want to know, does everyone has this? or is it something with my settings?
August 29, 20205 yr I turned off reflections and it helped looking out of the cockpit. Its still bright but no fuzzy windscreen effects is better in my view.
August 29, 20205 yr It's not you, it's an adaptive vision thing that's cooked into the sim. I don't think there's a way to control it from the UI, but I just had a look at the UserCfg.opt and there's an entry in there for EyeAdaptation. It might be worth setting that to zero and seeing if that disables it. I don't immediately see any way to keep it but reduce the effect, but it's probably buried in a config somewhere. I got chores to do. 😄
August 29, 20205 yr It is simply too bright, too much contrast. I hope they'll give us a slider to adjust.
August 29, 20205 yr Is this akin to the view one gets if driving a car down a wet road, facing the sun, low on the horizon, even if the sun in the sim is behind you or overhead? Mark Robinson Part-time Ferroequinologist Author of FLIGHT: A near-future short story (ebook available on amazon) I made the baby cry - A2A Simulations L-049 Constellation Sky Simulations MD-11 V2.2 Pilot. The best "lite" MD-11 money can buy (well, it's not freeware!)
August 29, 20205 yr yes it is too much, if anyone remembers, this could be turned off in P3D via PTA (Turn OFF HDR Luminance adaptation effect). This was reported during alpha (I am going to sound like a broken record I know haha), but Asobo never acknowledged or responded to the report.
August 29, 20205 yr Play with aerosol density. Turn off Bloom. We are all connected..... To each other, biologically...... To the Earth, chemically...... To the rest of the Universe atomically. Devons rig Intel Core i5 13600K @ 5.1GHz / G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB Series Ram 64GB / GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4070 Ti GAMING OC 12G Graphics Card / Sound Blaster Z / Meta Quest 2 VR Headset / Klipsch® Promedia 2.1 Computer Speakers / ASUS ROG SWIFT PG279Q ‑ 27" IPS LED Monitor ‑ QHD / 1x Samsung SSD 850 EVO 500GB / 2x Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB / 1x Samsung - 970 EVO Plus 2TB NVMe / 1x Samsung 980 NVMe 1TB / 2 other regular hd's with up to 10 terabyte capacity / Windows 11 Pro 64-bit / Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX Motherboard LGA 1700 DDR5
August 29, 20205 yr Working as intended. And that is exactly how you see the world from the cockpit. I must say that they did a pretty good job. Baber My Youtube Channel http://www.youtube.com/user/HDOnlive
August 29, 20205 yr Yep. If I don't have sunglasses on most sunny days when flying in real life, it's miserable. The darkness of XP11 is ridiculously unrealistic and the washed out nature of P3D is only a little better.
August 29, 20205 yr 47 minutes ago, Baber20 said: Working as intended. And that is exactly how you see the world from the cockpit. I must say that they did a pretty good job. I disagree. It is more as a camera would photograph or film the world from the cockpit. Cameras don't have the ability to expose the bright areas and dark areas correctly at the same time. If you split the view between the outside and the inside, a camera will average the exposure thereby over exposing the outside and under exposing the inside. This is what the sim replicates and is similar to what you might see in a video or photo from inside a plane with the view split between the outside and the panel, but that is a limitation of the camera and does not compare to our human vision. Our eyes adjust very quickly and have much more latitude for the difference in light. I agree with others that this effect is overdone and should be reduced, or at least provide a slider for it. There should be some effect, but one should still be able to see the panel and instruments even when flying toward low sun. Martin Sims: MSFS 2020, MSFS 2024 and X-plane 11 Home Airport: CYCW - Chilliwack, BC Canada i5 13600KF 32GB DDR4 3600 RAM, RTX3080TI Meta Quest 3
August 29, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, Baber20 said: Working as intended. And that is exactly how you see the world from the cockpit. I must say that they did a pretty good job. Completely agree. Flying in real world in various conditions can make the sky blindingly white and hide ground features even close by. Amazing people complain about reality! CPU Ryzen 7800X 3D RAM 32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 6000MHz GPU GEFORCE RTX 4090 Monitor AOC AGON AG352UCG UltraWide G-Sync @ 3440x1440 Internal Storage 1TB NVMe PCIe SSD External Storage Three 4Tb HDs
August 29, 20205 yr 2 hours ago, HighBypass said: Is this akin to the view one gets if driving a car down a wet road, facing the sun, low on the horizon, even if the sun in the sim is behind you or overhead? the view is brighter towards the sun as it should be and the effect is increased as 'aerosol density' increases. Just look at screenshots and you see plenty that are not superbright and or washed out/overexposed. I agree that the brightness can be annoying and thats why I fly mid afternoon for now. but the sun in real life is really bright and will blind more than the sim can. | Dave | I've been around for most of my life. There's always a sunset happening somewhere in the world that somebody is enjoying.
August 29, 20205 yr 3 hours ago, kapitan said: Almost to the point you can barely see, too bright. I change settings, lower reflections, bloom to medium, change my monitors settings, but still...when sitting in the cockpit the view outside of the window is as if the sun was right there. As soon as I change to external camera the scenery is normal with beautiful vivid colors and shades. The problem is only from within the cockpit Wonder if anyone had this I mostly only fly with a thick cloud layer over top, I rarely fly in clear skies anymore. Having a cloud layer on top helps get rid of the overexposed look of some the aerial photography. Experiment with the bottom 2 cloud layers, I usually put the bottom one at about 10k - 20k, and then the next one up on top of it and make the 2nd layer a bit taller than the first. It helps improve contrast and balance the lighting. The only problem is if you set it to real world weather, then you get whatever cloud structure and lighting it gives you. So lately I've been flying custom if the real world weather isn't to my liking. Edited August 29, 20205 yr by SceneryFX AMD 5800x | Nvidia 3080 (12gb) | 64gb ram
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.