9 hours ago, Chapstick said:

It's always the same two dudes on that forum that spend 8 hours a day there running defense for LM. I get that they're trying to be helpful but most of the time they just make up excuses for LM's absence in the public subforums. If LM wants it to be a user-to-user support forum, they should state that on their website. Right now, if you click on the support tab on their site, the forum is only option besides the FAQ.

Glad it wasn't just me that noticed this. The endless "what addons do you have installed" and "try with vanilla P3D" to EVERY problem are disengenious to new users when the problem they are describing is a recognized issue with the platform (be it with addons or without - the SimConnect window bug for example). Why waste peoples time going back and forth with posts about what addons are installed if the person is describing a known bug? Its almost like there's a little bit of a power trip/ego/post count thing going on.....

 

3 hours ago, KL Oo said:

Glad it wasn't just me that noticed this. The endless "what addons do you have installed" and "try with vanilla P3D" to EVERY problem are disengenious to new users when the problem they are describing is a recognized issue with the platform (be it with addons or without - the SimConnect window bug for example). Why waste peoples time going back and forth with posts about what addons are installed if the person is describing a known bug? Its almost like there's a little bit of a power trip/ego/post count thing going on.....

 

 But it is the only right approach. I think in 95 percent of all problems it is NOT P3D but some addon or your OS. 

So you need a basis to test on to get common sense. Then add step for step add-ons etc. 

Sorry to say that. But that is the only and the only right way to go

I disagree. Whilst in its vanilla form the sim might be more stable, the fact (based on user reports) is that V5 is far more susceptible to crashing than previous versions, even using addons that are strictly V5. To be honest, I've been pretty lucky with the DGXI errors and have only had handful, but I get the SimConnect window crash every second flight using nothing more than GSX.

 

46 minutes ago, KL Oo said:

Whilst in its vanilla form the sim might be more stable, the fact (based on user reports) is that V5 is far more susceptible to crashing than previous versions, even using addons that are strictly V5.

You cannot always believe only what you read in user reports..  Other users, like yours truly, never submit a report because I never have a crash in V5..

Edited October 16, 20205 yr by Bert Pieke

2 minutes ago, Bert Pieke said:

You cannot always believe only what you read in user reports..  Other users, like yours truly, never submit a report because I never have a crash in V5..

Thanks Bert - However when enough users report the same problem across a variety of scenarios I'm satisfied enough to call it an issue worthy of concern and address. Neither of which have been forthcoming from LM unfortunately. 

Alll versions of P3D were stable for me on both of my view pc’s.

And I have 100+ scenery Addons with some of them without a V5 update. I use FSGRW for weather and PSXT/RT icw AIG/FSPXAI for real-time AI traffic. And RAAS.

As I use Prosim, which runs outside Fs I guess that that might have something to do with it.

6 hours ago, KL Oo said:

Thanks Bert - However when enough users report the same problem across a variety of scenarios I'm satisfied enough to call it an issue worthy of concern and address. Neither of which have been forthcoming from LM unfortunately. 

And even then it must not be a P3D issue. A lot of addons have problems because they are faulty or not (correct) compiled with the P3D SDK. 

And IF the problem is within P3D and does only occur on your end by using a certain Addon, the Addon dev must get a hint, from you as an user and they should solve the issue with P3D. 

The P3D platform is very stable. Why is it that sudden users have problem and others not? The common sense between those two parties is the same P3D Build. So THAT can simply not be the problem. Because you/we are using the same software. But our hardware, OS, Addons etc. are variable und most likely different. So the issues mostly are related to that variables or the combination of sudden variables.

P3D is very decent. And wait till MSFS matures..........they will ran into exact the same issues a soon the market is expanding. it is already now visible with the A320MOD. 

Always the same story. get rid of the variables and create a common base.....then test and look where the issue come from. 

And that means: Turn off your addons, check your OS, delete all tweaks, etc......

As a company you do simply have no other chance to get the source of your failure.

Marcus

I have no idea what that post was all about....

Re P3dv5 , I have experienced to-date 2 crashes after hours of flying. One of those was completely unexplainable as it was starting up.

The 2nd I have some rationale for and that was when I was running Simtoolkit Pro and had the Live Map running as well as Navigraph also running in the background using a 2nd online map connection both through Simconnect. I suspect that led to a conflict between those two apps that caused it to promptly shut P3D down.

 

Apart from that Its been pretty darn stable and I have gradually installed additional add-ons over time.

 

Anyway back to the question posed to the OP....

I predict that November will be month that we will hear something more about a certain update... just guessing of course. 🤫

 

Hi,

 

Just asked Fsdreamteam about CYVR for P3D, and the answer is "will see after the next version of P3D"

Seeme sto be a good news!

Yves

Yeah isn't that a shift away from their "We're only going to develop for MS2020" ? Or am I getting that mixed up with P3D V5....

 

1 hour ago, KL Oo said:

Yeah isn't that a shift away from their "We're only going to develop for MS2020" ? Or am I getting that mixed up with P3D V5....

 

Considering the quietly developed and released CYVR for MSFS today and bristle at comments or questions regarding P3D v5 it's hard to know where the future lies.

7 hours ago, Boeingnut said:

Considering the quietly developed and released CYVR for MSFS today and bristle at comments or questions regarding P3D v5 it's hard to know where the future lies.

Agree.

Many of the 3rd Party Developers are playing a waiting game right now because LM needs to fix the issues in v5.0

35 minutes ago, aldridgem said:

Agree.

Many of the 3rd Party Developers are playing a waiting game right now because LM needs to fix the issues in v5.0

And MS needs to fix the issues with FS. We're spoilt for choice but they both need work 

LM need to fix their issus with dx12 and ms need to do it with dx11, and will do with dx12