17 minutes ago, ShawnG said:

 am interested in the question as well.  Does Pilot 2 atc assign sids stars and approaches dynamically?  I’d like to have a basic plan, with the atc assigning everything that it should.  I used pro atc x in p3d, but it will be a while til that is ported over.  Not interested in voice control, or “atc” which just runs a pre planned flight like a script.  

Pilot2ATC can be set to auto choose SID/STAR/runway but you can also select your own, which is what I usually do.

I am a big Pilot2Atc user and have been for quite awhile.  I believe there still may be the ability to download and demo for a limited time.

6 minutes ago, Mike S KPDX said:

I am a big Pilot2Atc user and have been for quite awhile.  I believe there still may be the ability to download and demo for a limited time.

Indeed there is. And if anyone is struggling with setting it up, or is a bit overwhelmed by the huge number of options available, I've put together a short video to help you get it up and running with MSFS as quickly as possible: 

 

40 minutes ago, ShawnG said:

News to me, every flight I’ve flown with the default ATC has ended with an ai assigned runway, approach and transition.  I’ve had other issues (and it does tend to assign the approach very late) but that hasn’t been one of them.  It doesn’t assign arrivals tho, or departures at the gate.

i am interested in the question as well.  Does Pilot 2 atc assign sids stars and approaches dynamically?  I’d like to have a basic plan, with the atc assigning everything that it should.  I used pro atc x in p3d, but it will be a while til that is ported over.  Not interested in voice control, or “atc” which just runs a pre planned flight like a script.  

Wow, that's interesting.  There was a discussion here and on the official forums about the ATC not being able to do anything other than follow a fully scripted flight plan that included runways and approaches.  I'm new to this and could use an explanation of the difference between an "arrival" and an "approach".

So how are you setting up your flight plans, and at what point does the in-game ATC assign you a runway and approach?

Edited October 6, 20205 yr by Virtual-Chris

Anyone using it without headphones?  I really don't like to wear 'phones when I'm simming, so if the only way to get decent voice rec is via  headset/mic, I doubt I can live with it.  I have a webcam with a mic that works perfectly for e.g. Zoom - anyone have any experience with whether that will work with this addon, please?

Pilot 2 ATC seems to be the remedy to the FS ATC fiasco, good mews 👍

Does Pilot 2 ATC have plugins to manage regional accents f.i. French, German, American, etc ?

Thx

The video he posted above is great for the info content.  If I may I would like to add some of my thoughts;

• Voice interaction is not required (thus no PTT switch needed), I use the Pilot2ATC built-in response dialog box, very easy to use.
• Obviously you can simply export your flight plan and load it into MSFS via their 'load' button, thus this will load up your in plane FMC, G1000/3000, again very simple
• You can select your weather inputs for ATIS (it will not read this from MS yet) but I set mine to NOAA and is very close to the MSFS WX system, thus you can get WX at each waypoint and airport.
• Routes? Personally, I go the FlightAware.com, find a realworld flight that I would like to fly, select it, and at the lower right you will see the flight plan, select Decode and you can copy/paste that in total right into P2ATC, no need to select only the route sans sid/star - I grab the whole thing and just paste, even with the departure arrival airports, boom your done. 
• Additional voice sets are available from MS windows via download, I have these plus a purchased package from IVONIA which are fantastic.  See the P2ATC website for this and many other FAQ's.

Now some answers;

I'm new to this and could use an explanation of the difference between an "arrival" and an "approach".

Arrival is a STAR, a route that has a beginning and an end.  The beginning may have multiple waypoints, those are called 'transitions'.  The end also also has many options, those are called an 'approch' and are runway specific.  I believe these are very strict in Europe and a bit looser in the US.

So how are you setting up your flight plans, and at what point does the in-game ATC assign you a runway and approach?

This can be set one of two ways; The ATC can assign you the approach dependent on WX, you will often get this around your top of descent, but surly when 60 miles out (depends on the STARs available to that airport). Or... you can select your full and complete path (take off to touchdown) and force P2ATC to provide this to you. 

I have a webcam with a mic that works perfectly for e.g. Zoom

Yes, it will work, no problem, however I chose to use the mouse click built-in dialog response capabilities which are quick and easy, you can also set your copilot to handle the radios (just like in MSFS).

Does Pilot 2 ATC have plugins to manage regional accents f.i. French, German, American, etc ?

It uses whatever you have available in your Window installation, try the Win10 built-in text to speech app, what you hear there is what you will hear in the game.

Try the demo, free and easy.  I hope this helps.

Edited October 6, 20205 yr by Mike S KPDX

1 hour ago, Virtual-Chris said:

So how are you setting up your flight plans, and at what point does the in-game ATC assign you a runway and approach?

Mike did a good job explaining how it’s done for p2atc.  For the default sim, I pick departure and arrival airports, select one of the airways routing options from the list, low or high depending on what I’m flying, the planner will usually assign a Sid and a star at that point.  Leave the approach blank.  During your flight, when you are near the arrival airport, the atc will assign you to approach control, and shortly thereafter you will get an approach, usually with a transition, and a runway.  Load that into your fmc/gps and activate.   Sometimes the approaches are not what you’d want. (Never flown so many VOR/Dme approaches before) and sometimes it assigns the approach after you’ve passed the transition, so your ap will do a 180 on you (only had this happen once myself). You can ask for a different approach if you don’t like the one they gave you.

im used to pro atc x where the program gives you a Sid on clearance delivery, a star while in cruise, and an expected approach at the same time.  It can change if conditions change, which I like.  I don’t really want to load in a whole flight at the gate, and just fly it, especially if the atc program doesn’t control the ai traffic, why even fly with ai atc?

for those that do use p2atc with dynamically assigned sids and stars, does it do a good job?

1 hour ago, Mark VII said:

Pilot 2 ATC seems to be the remedy to the FS ATC fiasco, good mews.

As far as I’m aware, there has never been an ai ATC in a sim that hasn’t been a fiasco about something.  The day somebody figures it out it’ll be on the news, and they’ll be using it to control real planes.  Til then, all we got is a myriad of bad choices.

2 hours ago, ShawnG said:

Mike did a good job explaining how it’s done for p2atc.  For the default sim, I pick departure and arrival airports, select one of the airways routing options from the list, low or high depending on what I’m flying, the planner will usually assign a Sid and a star at that point.  Leave the approach blank.  During your flight, when you are near the arrival airport, the atc will assign you to approach control, and shortly thereafter you will get an approach, usually with a transition, and a runway.  Load that into your fmc/gps and activate.   Sometimes the approaches are not what you’d want. (Never flown so many VOR/Dme approaches before) and sometimes it assigns the approach after you’ve passed the transition, so your ap will do a 180 on you (only had this happen once myself). You can ask for a different approach if you don’t like the one they gave you.

im used to pro atc x where the program gives you a Sid on clearance delivery, a star while in cruise, and an expected approach at the same time.  It can change if conditions change, which I like.  I don’t really want to load in a whole flight at the gate, and just fly it, especially if the atc program doesn’t control the ai traffic, why even fly with ai atc?

for those that do use p2atc with dynamically assigned sids and stars, does it do a good job?

Ok thanks. I will have to try that. I also want a realistic experience where your runway and approach may not be known until en-route and even change with conditions upon arrival.

I echo your question though... for those that do use p2atc with dynamically assigned sids and stars, does it do a good job?

Edited October 6, 20205 yr by Virtual-Chris

16 hours ago, mrfilbert said:

Indeed there is. And if anyone is struggling with setting it up, or is a bit overwhelmed by the huge number of options available, I've put together a short video to help you get it up and running with MSFS as quickly as possible: 

 

good  vid  on how  to use  it

18 hours ago, Paul_Yorks said:

Anyone using it without headphones?  I really don't like to wear 'phones when I'm simming,

Yes I use Pilot2Atc without headphones. I can't use headphones because I use Track Ir with cap

Thanks for the replies.  Gonna give it a go.  Used to love Radar Contact in FSX and this looks next level.

" ...for those that do use p2atc with dynamically assigned sids and stars, does it do a good job?"

I use dynamic SID/STAR and Arrivals (or any combination of them) periodically with P2Atc, and it works very well.  There can be an occasional issue like being high and getting a late descent and having to 'slam dunk', but nothing that is not doable.  The one reason I often do a full preplanned flight is if I seriously want to follow a real-world flight.

In conjunction, I also have to have a shout out to this add on, it adds a huge amount of immersion for very cheap and also works with P2Atc beautifully.

1 hour ago, Mike S KPDX said:

I use dynamic SID/STAR and Arrivals (or any combination of them) periodically with P2Atc, and it works very well. 

I wasn't aware this was available. I always choose the STAR when I setup the flight. How do you choose "dynamic" arrivals? Thanks.