NIght lighting is fatal- Asobo please read

[Tuskin38 6,520]

The updated night lighting looks a lot better to me.

  

2 hours ago, abrams_tank said:

So what Asobo needs to do is reduce the density of lighting in rural areas.

According to Q&A Wednesday, their street lights are based on their data set. I don't know what their source is (I assume OSM) but I guess if a road is undefined, or not defined correctly it will have lights when it shouldn't.

Considering there's probably millions of roads in the world, it would be impossible for all of them to have accurate lighting.

Are there data sets they can use that would define what area should have less street lights or not?

Edited October 30, 2020 by Tuskin38

[HiFlyer 9,360]

27 minutes ago, Tuskin38 said:

Are there data sets they can use that would define what area should have less street lights or not?

The question that immediately occurs to me, is who would have created such a data set, and why?

[ShawnG 1,823]

Just now, HiFlyer said:

The question that immediately occurs to me, is who would have created such a data set, and why?

Open Street Maps = wikipedia for geodata,  user editable.  i.e. "none of us are as dumb as all of us"

[HiFlyer 9,360]

3 minutes ago, ShawnG said:

Open Street Maps = wikipedia for geodata,  user editable.  i.e. "none of us are as dumb as all of us

I think most of us are aware of osm, I guess my imagination just fails at the idea of cataloging the intensity, and possibly even color of individual street lights worldwide.

 This, in a database in which it's not uncommon to miss Rivers streams lakes and sometimes even entire small towns.

[FlyAndFight 37]

It may have already been mentioned but the new lighting looks as if there are no atmospheric effects, especially as you look further away.   Individual lights remain not just as bright but as crisp as those that are closer.   Highly unrealistic.  I definitely got an immediate FSX vibe.  Would definitely benefit from some toning down, as well. 

Just my opinion, folks.  

[CarlosF 1,241]

Its impossible to please every single simmer out there, if you dont like what you see (I do) then just fly during the day and move on.

[HiFlyer 9,360]

Throughout this entire thread, I keep thinking of the old adage about too many Cooks spoiling the broth.

[marsman2020 1,310]

This is a tough nut to crack.

On a local level, I'd probably use the density of AI placed buildings within a given area as one function.  Roads are not usually lit away from densely populated areas, so if the Blackshark AI isn't placing a lot of buildings, then tone down the street lights to match the building density.

There are also global light pollution maps - https://www.lightpollutionmap.info/#zoom=10.57&lat=34.9859&lon=-117.7772&layers=0BFFFFFTFFFFFFFFFF and the outputs of whatever the local function is should be cross-checked against the global results to make sure they make sense. 

 

Edited October 30, 2020 by marsman2020

[ShawnG 1,823]

Just now, HiFlyer said:

I think most of us are aware of osm, I guess my imagination just fails at the idea of cataloging the intensity, and possibly even color of individual street lights worldwide.

 This, in a database in which it's not uncommon to miss Rivers streams lakes and sometimes even entire small towns.

To be fair, OSM wasn't created with flightsim scenery in mind.  Nor were any of the other commercial datasets available.  you either have to adjust everything by hand, which is impossible on a global scale, or use an automated process that offends the sensibilities and entitled nature of Johnny Avsim.

[109Sqn 1,566]

7 hours ago, bobcat999 said:

Lovely picture by the way 👍 but we don't know if it was over-exposed to get the light level. 

 

7 hours ago, Nyxx said:

Agree, and also that's one very "polished" photograph and it would have been through LR and PS, it's more than likely looks nothing like the RAW file, so really its a hard to compare  with a MSFS screenshot.

As a photographer I can definitely say that, as beautiful as that Cape Town photograph looks, it has been heavily edited. Saturation has been increased to emphasise the lighting and it's colours.  Contrast increased too. You only need to look at the foreground foliage to see how that has been affected by the tweaking.

Edited October 30, 2020 by 109Sqn
"its", not "it's". Grrr!

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17 hours ago, sd_flyer said:

 

ig nore this i posted the wrong qiote anad dont know how to dlete it

Edited October 30, 2020 by AmeliaCat

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7 minutes ago, 109Sqn said:

 

As a photographer I can definitely say that, as beautiful as that Cape Town photograph looks, it has been heavily edited. Saturation has been increased to emphasise the lighting and it's colours.  Contrast increased too. You only need to look at the foreground foliage to see how that has been affected by the tweaking.

As an ex pro surf photographer I agree 😁

Its actually a pretty boring picture.

Edited October 30, 2020 by AmeliaCat

[Tory 0]

Now look at traffic on water, please. No navigation lights, nothing. Boats are not lighted at all. I can see only flashing trails after some small boats. It looks also, that big vessels do not move at all, they are static.

[109Sqn 1,566]

7 minutes ago, AmeliaCat said:

Its actually a pretty boring picture.

But you can just see it appearing in your local catalogue shop, ready to grace the walls of many new apartments!😁

[AmeliaCat 201]

2 minutes ago, 109Sqn said:

But you can just see it appearing in your local catalogue shop, ready to grace the walls of many new apartments!😁

i was thinking more along the lines of postcards and cheap hotel rooms,,,lol  but yah same idea ,