21 hours ago, jarmstro said:

What I don't understand is why there is such an enormous FPS hit not just with your mod but with x-enviro and symaxpro even with a miserably restricted cloud draw distance.

EC's FPS impact can be minimized (< 8%) with an appropriate preset.

https://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?/forums/topic/218819-enhanced-cloudscapes-freeware-volumetric-clouds-for-x-plane-11/&do=findComment&comment=2127678

 

 

19 hours ago, mSparks said:

OMFG this is good

...

And it only took you a few months after having told you about it on Discord to find out! 😂

 

24 minutes ago, Janov said:

PS: If you have subscribed to the X-Plane newsletter you should have received the "Happy Holidays from X-Plane" newsletter - with a picture showing all of the Laminar team and freelance contributors. Thats everyone working on X-Plane (give and take a few people getting hired for quick jobs now and then).

Out of curiosity: How many people did you count?

 

20 minutes ago, jarmstro said:

For X-plane 12 one thing I would like to see is some sort of block or on screen notification to prevent you loading an add on that is going to cause issues. I've spent much of today trying to solve a loading crash. Turns out it was caused by Navigraph loading data directly into the plugins folder rather than into 124atc where it was meant to be. Not X-Planes fault but surely there should be some way to stop it trying to load or to flag it up rather than just crash the sim?

Why would Laminar see themselves responsible for third party (Navigraph) or user stupidity?

Edited January 31, 20215 yr by Bjoern

20 minutes ago, jarmstro said:

or to flag it up

The funny part is - the crash is your flag that things don´t work. The alternative would be to have the code continue to run - with totally unpredictable results.

A crash for a computer program is just that. A warning that things went off-rail and the code can´t continue to run sound.

 

3 minutes ago, Bjoern said:

How many people did you count?

25

Just now, Janov said:

25

Thanks. I now have a number to work with when people come crying why Laminar doesn't do this and that and do it fast. 😂

Just now, Bjoern said:

Thanks. I now have a number to work with when people come crying why Laminar doesn't do this and that and do it fast. 😂

And consider that a few of these people (like me) don´t really work 9-5 every day... I just put in a few hours now and then as my real job allows me to.

7 minutes ago, Janov said:

The funny part is - the crash is your flag that things don´t work.

But a crash doesn't tell you what has caused it? Why can't X-Plane just prevent it happening? It's 2021.

3 minutes ago, jarmstro said:

But a crash doesn't tell you what has caused it? Why can't X-Plane just prevent it happening? It's 2021.

Right, if Microsoft can do it, so should Laminar Research.

2 minutes ago, Janov said:

Right, if Microsoft can do it, so should Laminar Research.

? What has is got to do with Microsoft? I said it would be good to have some sort of crash prevention built into XP12?

Edited January 31, 20215 yr by jarmstro

It's called Exception Handling. But unfortunately doesn't happen with XP.  Instead you get CTD's.

2 minutes ago, jarmstro said:

?

I was being sarcastic 🙄

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/workaround-for-ctds-when-using-offline-ai-traffic/356111

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/very-discouraging-but-problem-solved/359489

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/how-many-ctds-do-you-have-per-number-of-flights-lets-compare/347558

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/i-keep-ctd-lately-it-just-started-tonight/357429

 

7 minutes ago, Janov said:

I was being sarcastic 🙄

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/workaround-for-ctds-when-using-offline-ai-traffic/356111

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/very-discouraging-but-problem-solved/359489

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/how-many-ctds-do-you-have-per-number-of-flights-lets-compare/347558

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/i-keep-ctd-lately-it-just-started-tonight/357429

 

I'm sorry but what is the relevance of these links? I said it would be good to have some crash protection built into XP12. Maybe it would also be good to have some crash protection built into MS2020 as well,

Edited January 31, 20215 yr by jarmstro

44 minutes ago, jarmstro said:

I'm sorry but what is the relevance of these links?

hes trying to express that the issue you are describing generally only exists on windows, since msfs is windows only it has a lot of them.

xplane already has this

https://questions.x-plane.com/24075/this-application-crashed-because-plugin-xplm_plugin_xplane

its just windows mostly doesnt, and windows buggier than a dumpster from men in black

Edited January 31, 20215 yr by mSparks

I think all should wait until XP12 is released , and screaming about XP faults here is really not going to make XP12 a nex gen flight sim.  Though I do hope it does.

Also stop comparing MFS with XP11 it's been said many times earlier XP11 is 4 years old , not a fair comparison. Just because the A sim has this and that, doesn't mean one should expect everything in the B sim, both have different targets, as it stands to me MFS just looks like a gorgeous world simulator , but that's my opinion.

  Yes XP does need a overhaul especially for Wx / ligthing , i wouldn't care much for scenery if I was flying a 737 / 320 at 30-40k MSL, don't think I would be able to see the "taillight of a car blinking"  from that altitude .

For me scenery becomes more relevant as I fly helis. and sometimes GA's at lower altitudes , XP11 does a decent job for me especially that I also have a  choice of using Ortho4XP, though a new better ground scenery would go a long way . 

The only thing that it lacks  is the WX / lighting which I think the whole simming community is not happy about and wants that upgraded ASAP.  

No sim is perfect or will ever be and threads like this will continue and keep getting locked.

If one is complaining about XP11 should rather not use it and wait for XP12 or just use MFS or any other sim IMO. 

 

Edited January 31, 20215 yr by HumptyDumpty

1 hour ago, mSparks said:

, and windows buggier than a dumpster from men in black

hey i dont like MS and hate all the "spying" but since you cant escape it these days, but win10 is quiet good. As for linux, run it on a laptop, but it isnt for the faint of heart even these days.

4 hours ago, Greazer said:

 When the trailer comes for the next version of XP I feel for LR because compared to MSFS it will be embarrassing.

Just stick to MFS you will be good !