8 hours ago, G-RFRY said:

So what MSFS needs is a $2,500 upgrade to work best, it was said last year that a sim was coming that would not need expensive upgrades like the other sims 🤑.

Depends if you mean going for very HD resolutions, then you might indeed need to tart up your hardware. Otherwise it works fine if you are happy with 1920x1080, which I am.

All I did with my computer was sling a bit more RAM in (and not merely for flight sims, because it never hurts to have more RAM) and stick a 500Gb SSD in there for MSFS. That was about 150 quid.

40 minutes ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

I’ll let you know as I have 3090 and 32GB platinum 3200hz Corsair RAM. I’ve just ordered another 32 GB to test this theory out after reading it last night. 

Very interested to get your feedback 😉

54 minutes ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

I’ll let you know as I have 3090 and 32GB platinum 3200hz Corsair RAM. I’ve just ordered another 32 GB to test this theory out after reading it last night. 

test out the accelerated time before and after. Some people claim the max reliable acceleration is 4x with 32GB but goes up to around 10x with 64GB

27 minutes ago, Glenn Fitzpatrick said:

test out the accelerated time before and after. Some people claim the max reliable acceleration is 4x with 32GB but goes up to around 10x with 64GB

How do I accelerate the time? I’ve never used the function before. 

I have it on Page up and Page Down. Can't remember whether that's default or whether I assigned it in the keyboard shortcuts. It's not brilliant, there is no on screen indication of the rate, but what you can do is look at your chronometer on the aeroplane's panel and judge it off that. It's rate-limited if you have the autopilot on and it can lead to a bit of Dutch roll if you have it up high settings, so it's a good job we don't have a Boeing 707, otherwise the engines would fall off. 🤣

Edited February 27, 20215 yr by Chock

While i could add 2 more 16 gb sticks and bring the system to 64gigs of ram i really cannot see how this is going to dramatically improve performance. In my experience people with reasonably sized monitors at 1080p to 1440p will do just fine with an RTX3070 or 6800 non xt and a 5600x (for now). Anything over that your going to need to jack up the render scaling to give the GPU work to do. Right now in my rig i can have almost 40 fps with render scaling at 130 from the default 100 resolution of 3440x1440. Anything less than render scaling at 120 leaves the gpu idling too much. I mean if you got the funds then ok fine but what level of returns are you expecting?

For me im not performing any further upgrades unless Direct x 12 is implemented and a demonstrable performance increase can be shown if more memory is added due to increased cpu utilization or an add-on like Ultimate Traffic or some super high end study level aircraft requires it. Even at that point i can unwind the render scaling to recover frames due to the gpu headroom. Although i must say that the increased resolution looks awesome.

Don't forget most RAM is in pairs and having two sets of pairs is not as good as having one pair. So 64GB in one pair (2x32) is preferred over 64GB in two pairs (4x16) as it's easier to meet the ram specs with one pair. Using two pairs will usually affect how fast you can set up your RAM, often requiring you to set it less than it's rated for in order for the system, to be stable.

29 minutes ago, Maxis said:

For me im not performing any further upgrades unless Direct x 12 is implemented and a demonstrable performance increase can be shown if more memory is added due to increased cpu utilization 

What he said👍

I've ploughed 4.5k into this - no more!

64gb no way - the game is massively CPU bottlenecked and has real issues under the hood imo.

I'm now running at about 30fps at almost any setting other than low with render scaling at 1440p but set to minimum - low at 2k still 30fps.

Yet on any other game it benchmarks on par with any review or YT example, in addition it benchmarks above 99% of anything ever recorded in the latest 3D Mark. Lastly I can run my CPU fixed at 4.3ghz all cores, or 4.6 one core, cycle system memory speeds all which have no affect on frame rate.

 

12 hours ago, Pilot53 said:

interesting, I wonder if this actually makes a difference

Disclaimer...I am not that versed in all the computer lingo and various optimization techniques.

I have the following:

Intel i9-10900k

Nvidia Geforce RTX 3090

64mb of Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 3600 (PC4-28800) C18 AMD. 

Sim on SAMSUNG 980 PRO 2TB PCIe NVMe Gen4 Internal Gaming SSD M.2 (MZ-V8P2T0B/AM)

I run the sim with 4k (4096x2190) graphic setting and all settings maxed except 100 on I forget name (the slider that changes your graphics to 8 or 16k).

Before I purchased the RTX 3090 I had the RTX 2080Ti with 32 GB of RAM.

I can run the sim steady (for the most part) around 30 fps.  I do have drops at time when really full airport (using real time traffic and PSX as well as live traffic in sim) or traveling at 16x but nothing that crashes or really lags the sim.  This was also true with 2080.  I have lots of addons installed and the entire livery megapack in community.  I also have LOD to like 5.0.

In short, I have not seen the huge jump I expected with 3090 even with 64GB.  But I am sure it can run really fast if I changed settings.

Hope this helps.

I should add that I have my FPS locked at 30.

Edited February 27, 20215 yr by knich

12 hours ago, Pilot53 said:

interesting, I wonder if this actually makes a difference

Double post

Edited February 27, 20215 yr by knich

32 minutes ago, Phantoms said:

Don't forget most RAM is in pairs and having two sets of pairs is not as good as having one pair. So 64GB in one pair (2x32) is preferred over 64GB in two pairs (4x16) as it's easier to meet the ram specs with one pair. Using two pairs will usually affect how fast you can set up your RAM, often requiring you to set it less than it's rated for in order for the system, to be stable.

This COULD be true but I can tell you that in my case I set the profile and it went to 3600mhz as expected without any issues.  I would think this result would be common and what you are describing is few and far between maybe. 

2 hours ago, Glenn Fitzpatrick said:

test out the accelerated time before and after. Some people claim the max reliable acceleration is 4x with 32GB but goes up to around 10x with 64GB

Yeah...I was surprised I could go pretty fast with reliable fps.  I have only been able to exceed 8x with FBW since default restricts it.

41 minutes ago, Phantoms said:

Don't forget most RAM is in pairs and having two sets of pairs is not as good as having one pair. So 64GB in one pair (2x32) is preferred over 64GB in two pairs (4x16) as it's easier to meet the ram specs with one pair. Using two pairs will usually affect how fast you can set up your RAM, often requiring you to set it less than it's rated for in order for the system, to be stable.

This depends on the motherboard, newer z490 and b550 boards with optimized memory trace design can handle 4000mhz+ on four sticks.  There also is a small performance benefit from using four sticks.

6 minutes ago, knich said:

Sim on SAMSUNG 980 PRO 2TB PCIe NVMe Gen4 Internal Gaming SSD M.2 (MZ-V8P2T0B/AM)

In case you guys didnt know, thats a $400 m.2 ssd 🤑 

I have the 1TB variant, I hope prices on this guy comes WAY down once I need more than 1TB. fingers crossed.....

 

Though side note, we really dont need that kind of speed....7000MB/sec

Trust me, the sim still boots up slow.  I think about it every time "so this is what the fastest hardware you can buy gets you, wth"

5 minutes ago, Brandon01110 said:

In case you guys didnt know, thats a $400 m.2 ssd 🤑 

I have the 1TB variant, I hope prices on this guy comes WAY down once I need more than 1TB. fingers crossed.....

 

Though side note, we really dont need that kind of speed....7000MB/sec

Trust me, the sim still boots up slow.  I think about it every time "so this is what the fastest hardware you can buy gets you, wth"

HA...Yes....with all the addons I have it still boots slow.  Takes a good 2 minutes.

But when I removed everything from community to install UK it booted very quickly.

Edited February 27, 20215 yr by knich