I see a lot of people simply not flying after the recent update.  I don't blame them.  Imagine if you could defer an update or roll-back?

I wonder if there's a way to roll back to a previous version or set yourself up for this in the future?

I suppose we could plan for it, by cloning relevant folders before every new release (or creating a system restore point?), and then you could roll back after a bad update by restoring those backup folders and presumably... disconnecting from the internet during the startup of the sim would prevent it from updating?

Let's face it, we're going to have to prepare for this.  The releases are getting worse nearly every time. 

Nope none whatsoever,

You are simply forced to do the update and then live with all the issues after until they get fixed. It feels like we have all paid for the privilege to be Beta testers !

 

The simple answer to your question is no, you cannot roll back versions.  I cannot really relate to your issues, as I have seen very few problems caused by the update.  Most problems seem to be with 3rd party mods compatibility, which will always be an "issue" when the core software updates.  But this is a massive multi player online game/sim.  For it to function, everyone needs to be on the same version

I wish.....

The sim runs in 'potato mode' (terrain looks like FSX) with Bing Data and Photogrammetry turned off.  You can preset weather and turn off multiplayer traffic.  It should be theoretically possible to run an older version without hitting any of the external servers in a way that causes any issues (either for the client or the server).  But I'm not aware that anyone has developed a procedure to do this. And the procedure would be different for the MS Store version vs Steam version.

During the Steam server hiccup the other day I was able to put Steam into Offline mode and start the sim with no connection to any X-Box server with no issues.

Edited March 12, 20215 yr by marsman2020

1 hour ago, Virtual-Chris said:

I see a lot of people simply not flying after the recent update.  I don't blame them.  Imagine if you could defer an update or roll-back?

I wonder if there's a way to roll back to a previous version or set yourself up for this in the future?

I suppose we could plan for it, by cloning relevant folders before every new release (or creating a system restore point?), and then you could roll back after a bad update by restoring those backup folders and presumably... disconnecting from the internet during the startup of the sim would prevent it from updating?

Let's face it, we're going to have to prepare for this.  The releases are getting worse nearly every time. 

There's a way, but it implies running offline after the initial start-up and letting the sim go through the starting screens without looking for updates, otherwise it'll ask you to update which is what you don't want to do. After you're presented with the initial screen that includes the World Map, the Marketplace, the Profile, etc. you can set you internet connection to ON just to avoid running in Offline mode, which have no Bing data, nor Photogrammetry, so it's quite ugly.

Regretfully, once you're re-connected, the sim will deploy a message telling you that you're running an old version and there's a need to update your packages, after which it puts you automatically in Offline mode. At the end, the only possible way is to continue in Offline mode, which is basic scenery and you won't have any of the excellent graphics advantages of this sim.

Cheers, Ed

I ran the sim in offline mode....its really not that bad.

Some places look better without photogrammetry anyway.

43 minutes ago, edpatino said:

There's a way, but it implies running offline after the initial start-up and letting the sim go through the starting screens without looking for updates, otherwise it'll ask you to update which is what you don't want to do. After you're presented with the initial screen that includes the World Map, the Marketplace, the Profile, etc. you can set you internet connection to ON just to avoid running in Offline mode, which have no Bing data, nor Photogrammetry, so it's quite ugly.

Regretfully, once you're re-connected, the sim will deploy a message telling you that you're running an old version and there's a need to update your packages, after which it puts you automatically in Offline mode. At the end, the only possible way is to continue in Offline mode, which is basic scenery and you won't have any of the excellent graphics advantages of this sim.

Cheers, Ed

I see... that pretty much kills any hope of rolling back or not updating.

I kind on agree with no rollbacks

That's the only way to take the bull by the horn. It either works or it doesn't. That way the developer faces issue and must resolve it satisfactorily.

Its also the only way for the developer to have a common target...

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2 hours ago, blueshark747 said:

Some places look better without photogrammetry anyway

That's true, but in Offline mode you'll also miss the Blackshark AI autogen and the Bing terrain data. Depending on the area you're flying on, it could be pretty ugly.

Cheers, Ed

7 hours ago, PlumCrazy said:

The simple answer to your question is no, you cannot roll back versions.  I cannot really relate to your issues, as I have seen very few problems caused by the update.  Most problems seem to be with 3rd party mods compatibility, which will always be an "issue" when the core software updates.  But this is a massive multi player online game/sim.  For it to function, everyone needs to be on the same version

That is totally false. Many people including many experienced simmers are having issues after the latest  update and Asobo is aware of it. Why post things that are not true. ? 

I'm flying in FSX SE as I wait this out.  Does that qualify as a roll back?

3 hours ago, wlix261 said:

That's the only way to take the bull by the horn. It either works or it doesn't. That way the developer faces issue and must resolve it satisfactorily.

Its also the only way for the developer to have a common target...

We are 6 months into this and each patch brings new things we get to wait 4+ weeks to be "resolved" (for some strange MS/Asobo definition of "resolved").

If there were a way to stop updates I wouldn't begrudge someone using it.  It won't look any worse then FSX.  Of course you'd need to stop updating and freeware and payware addons at that same point to avoid creating incompatibilities.  And there would be no sense in bugging any developer about any issues, you'd be "on your own".

Edited March 13, 20215 yr by marsman2020

10 minutes ago, marsman2020 said:

We are 6 months into this and each patch brings new things we get to wait 4+ weeks to be "resolved" (for some strange MS/Asobo definition of "resolved").

If there were a way to stop updates I wouldn't begrudge someone using it.  It won't look any worse then FSX.  Of course you'd need to stop updating and freeware and payware addons at that same point to avoid creating incompatibilities.

The only way I have found is impractical.  It is to start the sim and get to the main menu and leave it running.  That is past the checking for updates phase.  I have done that on the day of updates, usually a particular easy to predict Tuesday, but that is not practical for the Wed, Thurs, and Friday that follow...  I do not leave my system running 24/7, much less the sim.

When I see the "mandatory update" popup I think to myself, really???  How about only after "mandatory thorough testing".....

Edited March 13, 20215 yr by fppilot

On 3/12/2021 at 9:04 PM, Bobsk8 said:

That is totally false. Many people including many experienced simmers are having issues after the latest  update and Asobo is aware of it. Why post things that are not true. ? 

Which part of my response is "totally false"?  I stated it is not really possible to roll back versions of MSFS (and I would add not advisable for various reasons).  I stand by that statement.  I also stated most problems with updates tend to be associated with 3rd party mod compatibility.  I stand by that statement as well.  I did not claim the updates never cause other problems - I just believe the "majority" of issues are related to mod compatibility (until the mod developers release updates to their own mods).  I am sorry you clearly felt offended by my post, but I hope you can now understand why I post things that are "not true" to you...  (Simple answer... Because they ARE true to me!) 😉

 

Edited March 22, 20215 yr by PlumCrazy