March 28, 20215 yr Guys you gotta try this: if you disable all the optional windows in the custom overhead panel you get a significant performance improvement, especially in CPU / Main thread limited situations. I tested this in many scenarios in the last hour and it's reproducible. I managed to obtain the following over EDDF with the A320 Neo: * Limited by main thread: from 45.7 to 55.0 fps * Limited by GPU (external view): from 63.6 to 69.4 Screenshots This is clearly a bug because all those icons affect the already overloaded "main thread" even if they do absolutely nothing. If you want you can keep the ATC window only (which costs 2-3 fps) but the ATC can be managed by the AI and you don't need the window if you understand spoken English. The ATC works 100% without its window anyway, and even if you want to change the weather or other stuff while you fly, you can activate the corresponding icon just when you really need it. I hope Asobo looks into this. Cheers 7800X3D | 2x32 GB DDR5-6000 CL32 | RTX 5080 | Alienware OLED 34" | 1 Gbps fiber
March 28, 20215 yr Tested it (with the CRJ). The fps went higher for a short time after deactivating some menu items but went back to normal after a few seconds.
March 28, 20215 yr On my system (see sig) the difference is small, on Flatscreen I see a jump of 2-3fps when turning them all off, in VR there's barely any change if any. This was at Parking in the XCub (quick test) so not in flight, there's certainly something eating away at FPS with these icons/windows and I'll take a closer look when I next have a proper flight, thanks for the heads up 🙂 Pico Neo3 Link VR - Windows 11 64bit, Gigabyte Z590 Aorus Elite Mobo, i7-10700KF CPU, Gigabyte RX 9070 XT OC 16gb (AMD GPU), 32gig Corsair 3600mhz RAM, SSD x2 + M.2 SSD 1tb x1 Saitek X45 HOTAS - Saitek Pro Rudder Pedals - Logitech Flight Yoke - Homemade 3 Button & 8-directional Joystick Box, SNES Controller (used as a Button Box - Additional USB Numpad (used as a Button Box)
March 28, 20215 yr "...disable all the optional windows in the custom overhead panel..." how?? CPU: Core i5-6600K 4 core (3.5GHz) - overclock to 4.3 | RAM: (1066 MHz) 16GB MOBO: ASUS Z170 Pro | GeForce GTX 1070 8GB | MONITOR: 2560 X 1440 2K
March 28, 20215 yr 36 minutes ago, Mike S KPDX said: "...disable all the optional windows in the custom overhead panel..." how?? There is a cog icon to the far right, click on that and you can toggle each one on or off Thomas Derbyshire
March 28, 20215 yr 1 hour ago, sidfadc said: There is a cog icon to the far right, click on that and you can toggle each one on or off well I feel like an word not allowed... I never pressed that as I thought it just took me into the overall sim settings (I use escape key), did not know it was for the menus only, thanks CPU: Core i5-6600K 4 core (3.5GHz) - overclock to 4.3 | RAM: (1066 MHz) 16GB MOBO: ASUS Z170 Pro | GeForce GTX 1070 8GB | MONITOR: 2560 X 1440 2K
March 28, 20215 yr 14 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said: What is AI control? Try it 🙂 lets you toggle on/off the copilot taking over certain tasks/activities Phil Leaven i5 10600KF, 32 GB 3200 RAM, ASUS 4070 12GB EVO, Asus ROG Z490-H, 2 WD Black NVME for each Win11 (500GB) and MSFS (1TB), Rolling Cache 16GB, Photogrammetry always OFF, Live Weather and Live Traffic always ON, Res 2560x1440 on 27"
March 28, 20215 yr 1 hour ago, Bobsk8 said: What is AI control? Basically a co-pilot doing the flying SAR Pilot. Flight Sim'ing since the beginning.
March 29, 20215 yr Author 8 hours ago, MarcG said: On my system (see sig) the difference is small, on Flatscreen I see a jump of 2-3fps when turning them all off, in VR there's barely any change if any. This was at Parking in the XCub (quick test) so not in flight, there's certainly something eating away at FPS with these icons/windows and I'll take a closer look when I next have a proper flight, thanks for the heads up 🙂 8 hours ago, crimplene said: Tested it (with the CRJ). The fps went higher for a short time after deactivating some menu items but went back to normal after a few seconds. Don't test it on the runway, fly! The fps increase is high and consistent, much more flying 1) because the CPU is busy loading textures from the cloud and elaborating new terrain tiles and 2) because the ATC window fills with messages and creates additional load and stuttering. With this trick, as a bonus you also get rid of ATC stuttering, a bug reported by the community since 2003 and never fixed! Edited March 29, 20215 yr by MrFuzzy 7800X3D | 2x32 GB DDR5-6000 CL32 | RTX 5080 | Alienware OLED 34" | 1 Gbps fiber
March 29, 20215 yr Yep read my post i clearly said I'll take a closer look next time 😉 Pico Neo3 Link VR - Windows 11 64bit, Gigabyte Z590 Aorus Elite Mobo, i7-10700KF CPU, Gigabyte RX 9070 XT OC 16gb (AMD GPU), 32gig Corsair 3600mhz RAM, SSD x2 + M.2 SSD 1tb x1 Saitek X45 HOTAS - Saitek Pro Rudder Pedals - Logitech Flight Yoke - Homemade 3 Button & 8-directional Joystick Box, SNES Controller (used as a Button Box - Additional USB Numpad (used as a Button Box)
March 29, 20215 yr 8 hours ago, Bobsk8 said: What is AI control? In my experience it goes something like:You: "Today's a perfect day for flying."AI Pilot: "You mean crashing?" Take-offs are optional, landings are mandatory.The only time you have too much fuel is when you're on fire. To make a small fortune in aviation you must start with a large fortune.There's nothing less important than the runway behind you and the altitude above you. It's better to be on the ground wishing you were in the air, than in the air wishing you were on the ground.
March 29, 20215 yr Author 13 minutes ago, WestAir said: In my experience it goes something like:You: "Today's a perfect day for flying."AI Pilot: "You mean crashing?" AI is useful for ATC but I never let it handle the aircraft. Also, in a real flight you don't have a window with the transcript of the ATC instructions. If you don't understand or don't remember something, you can always re-enable the ATC window on the fly, read it and close it again. 7800X3D | 2x32 GB DDR5-6000 CL32 | RTX 5080 | Alienware OLED 34" | 1 Gbps fiber
March 29, 20215 yr Is there a key bind to pop up the ATC screen if you need it? ps. Good find @MrFuzzy! Kinda the opposite to my findings today... Edited March 29, 20215 yr by Virtual-Chris
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