At the height of MS's flightsim popularity, MS combat sim did a fraction of what flightsim did. There is no way MS is going to do another combat sim. The money would not be there and there is waaaaay too much competition.... streamed scenery or not.

Even DCS, with a limited map size, sometimes struggles even with today’s high end components. 
 

Here you’ve got the whole Earth to fly. Now you have to add ground and air combat AI, destructible buildings, aircraft, vehicles, etc. Good luck trying to play that.

 

What MS can feasibly do, is retain historically accurate weapons and mounts on the models. For whatever reason, that’s not allowed on the Marketplace, so why would anyone think they’d be interested in adding combat simulation?

39 minutes ago, VFXSimmer said:

I think there's a bug in Avsim's forum date /time stamp on your post.  Looks like your message was stamped "14 min ago", but this is really a post from Aug 2020 isnt it?  

... must be a glitch...  🤔

It still needs work, especially when they keep breaking things that were previously working.

1 minute ago, conundrum said:

It still needs work, especially when they keep breaking things that were previously working.

Its debatable if the qualifier "keep" is appropriate anymore.  The last sim update was very successful and the new work by WT and others on board has dramatically shifted the momentum in the right direction.

As I indirectly implied with my lame attempt at humor, I think its time to start evaluating Asobo's progress on where things are going now, and not continually rehash outdated sentiments.

4 hours ago, RaptyrOne said:

So in other words, it is not just a dream, it’s right around the corner!😁

How many banks would you need to own to buy that GPU .... if the scalpers leave any for gamers LOL

Tony

19 minutes ago, conundrum said:

It still needs work, especially when they keep breaking things that were previously working.

Well they have an open job listing for an Autopilot programmer for MSFS.

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1 hour ago, TASCHMANN said:

I just consider that sort of a benchmark in deciding what is a flight simulator versus what is a groping attempt to impersonate one.

If you feel groped by a videogame, maybe you should simply stay away from it. 

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53 minutes ago, VFXSimmer said:

..I think its time to start evaluating Asobo's progress on where things are going now, and not continually rehash outdated sentiments.

If they would actually acknowledge and fix those bugs, there would be progress, and there wouldn't be a need to continually rehash "sentiments" that aren't yet outdated.

 

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added missing air quotes

Just now, conundrum said:

If they would actually acknowledge and fix those bugs, there would be progress, and there wouldn't be a need to continually rehash sentiments that aren't yet outdated.

They do, and they are.  You must not be paying attention.

1 minute ago, VFXSimmer said:

They do, and they are.  You must not be paying attention.

I know for a fact they are not. I know this because I *am* paying attention.

2 hours ago, conundrum said:

I know for a fact they are not. I know this because I *am* paying attention.

Ok if that makes you feel better.  All the evidence and progress of the past month flies in the face of your theory.  Feel free to continue your outrage if you like.

Saner minds will keep enjoying the sim and be thankful that there are talented teams setting a new bar for our hobby that the others will be measured against.  It’s a pretty exciting time!

It would be cool if they could make the ground textures good enuff to make a first person shooter in the msfs world

This isn't really something new to the MSFS franchise. Keep in mind the FSX Acceleration Pack back in the day gave you a F-18 as well.

Live service titles are extremely popular these days due to the consistent revenue stream they provide based off a moderate initial investment then really just upkeep and smaller DLC releases after that.

Microsoft & Asobo are in a great position here, unlike videogames they don't need to go crazy with the content releases - they really only need to focus on the foundation systems, stability patches and a few of the major wishlist items from the community. 

Undoubtedly the biggest content for simmers are new aircraft and in this area the 3rd party market and community developers have this taken care off so Asobo can continue to focus on the sim engine and the wishlist items I previously mentioned - when you consider that Microsoft/Asobo are taking a 30% cut off every item sold in the marketplace you will quickly realize that they have a large incentive to support this title for years to come.

 

6 hours ago, dfanucci said:

At the height of MS's flightsim popularity, MS combat sim did a fraction of what flightsim did. There is no way MS is going to do another combat sim. The money would not be there and there is waaaaay too much competition.... streamed scenery or not.

That is because it was pretty awful with semi arcade flight models based on Hollywood myth rather than historical accuracy. IL2 Sturmovich left it for dead at the time. IL2 had vastly better FMs and far more aircraft to choose from, something like 300 official aircraft in the final versions and all free.