https://www.dni.gov/files/ODNI/documents/assessments/Prelimary-Assessment-UAP-20210625.pdf

 

"Some UAP appeared to remain stationary in winds aloft, move against the wind, maneuver 
abruptly, or move at considerable speed, without discernable means of propulsion. In a small 
number of cases, military aircraft systems processed radio frequency (RF) energy associated with UAP sightings.
The UAPTF holds a small amount of data that appear to show UAP demonstrating acceleration 
or a degree of signature management. Additional rigorous analysis are necessary by multiple 
teams or groups of technical experts to determine the nature and validity of these data. We are 
conducting further analysis to determine if breakthrough technologies were demonstrated."

 

Edited June 26, 20214 yr by martin-w

So yet another report that reports nothing.

1 hour ago, stans said:

So yet another report that reports nothing.

 

As we predicted.

 

No evidence of aliens but not ruled out.

Could be Russians but we have no evidence

Could be Chinese but we have no evidence.

Could be physics defying maneuverers but we don't have enough data to prove it.

Basically, err... we don't know. Which has been the case for a VERY long time. 

😁

Whether enough funding will be now granted to put the necessary equipment in place to scan the skies, we will have to wait and see. 

But at least there is now an official (no stigma) means for military personnel to report such things without being labelled a crackpot and jeopardizing ones career. 

It's a preliminary report too, so the full report should be to follow. Would be nice to know what was in the classified report Congress got of course. 

 

 

Edited June 26, 20214 yr by martin-w

Time Travelers!

41 minutes ago, nordance said:

Time Travelers!

 

It's actually a non-zero possibility. 

Another possibility (given that we are seeing the same things that ancient peoples saw, like flying discs) is that its literally the same vehicles. The same vehicles due to time dilation.  Due to time dilation a  few years might pass for them upon a return journey but  a couple of thousand for us. The same occupant in one vehicle could, in theory, visit the Roman's and us today. 

The claim that the distances to other habitable worlds are too great isn't exactly accurate either. Its only an issue if you wish to return to your home planet. Again, time dilation and  Lorenz Contraction comes into play even at just 10% of the speed of light. 

The Andromeda galaxy is 2.5 million lightyears away but that doesn't mean that it would take 2.5 million years to get there at light speed. In fact, even at just 10% of light speed, you could get to the Andromeda galaxy in just 50 years. However, your home world would have aged by 2.5 million years if you attempted to return. Hence the requirement to be a nomadic species, for you could never return to the home you once knew. 

 

If these are indeed alien spacecraft or drones, they may have been surveilling us for at least 75 years that we know of.  Perhaps the're just waiting for the mothership to arrive? 🤑

 

 

11 minutes ago, martin-w said:

The Andromeda galaxy is 2.5 million lightyears away but that doesn't mean that it would take 2.5 million years to get there at light speed. In fact, even at just 10% of light speed, you could get to the Andromeda galaxy in just 50 years. However, your home world would have aged by 2.5 million years if you attempted to return. Hence the requirement to be a nomadic species, for you could never return to the home you once knew. 

 

Actually, if you're prepared to wait about 4-5 billion years, you could walk there, because the Milky Way and the Andromeda Galaxy will have collided with one another by then.

The government doesn't  know anymore then anyone else, we are all humans  and we aren't supposed to know, it is our speculative minds that makes is think governments are hiding something but they are just as clueless as anyone else because they are human too, nothing more nothing less

6 hours ago, overspeed3 said:

If these are indeed alien spacecraft or drones, they may have been surveilling us for at least 75 years that we know of.  Perhaps the're just waiting for the mothership to arrive? 🤑

I would say it is more likely these things would be probes, just like we send probes to mars or other places to send information back, the likeliness of things coming here to watch us being 'manned' is very very low probability 

Has anybody ever considered the fact that if there are aliens from space and they have made contact with our governments that THEY are the ones demanding secrecy? 

Noel

56 minutes ago, birdguy said:

Has anybody ever considered the fact that if there are aliens from space and they have made contact with our governments that THEY are the ones demanding secrecy? 

Noel

I don't think THEY would trust any of our governments anymore than we would 🤣

3 hours ago, Matthew Kane said:

I don't think THEY would trust any of our governments anymore than we would 

I think THEY would be able to make them offers they couldn't refuse.

Noel

If these are cosmic entities, our govts are as clueless as we are. 

18 hours ago, martin-w said:

The Andromeda galaxy is 2.5 million lightyears away but that doesn't mean that it would take 2.5 million years to get there at light speed. In fact, even at just 10% of light speed, you could get to the Andromeda galaxy in just 50 years. However, your home world would have aged by 2.5 million years if you attempted to return. Hence the requirement to be a nomadic species, for you could never return to the home you once knew. 

 

At 10% the speed of light, the time dilation is only about 0.5%.
2.5 / 1.005 = 2.48 [million years]
Not 50 years by any stretch 😉 You must be confusing with some constant acceleration.

Pascal

 

P.S: It would require a constant acceleration of 0.55G to make it to Andromeda in 50 years. (deceleration included)
https://www.omnicalculator.com/physics/space-travel

 

Edited June 27, 20214 yr by Pascal_LSGC

13 hours ago, Matthew Kane said:

The government doesn't  know anymore then anyone else, we are all humans  and we aren't supposed to know, it is our speculative minds that makes is think governments are hiding something but they are just as clueless as anyone else because they are human too, nothing more nothing less

 

Yep, I agree. We have been clueless for a very long time.

 

13 hours ago, Matthew Kane said:

I would say it is more likely these things would be probes, just like we send probes to mars or other places to send information back, the likeliness of things coming here to watch us being 'manned' is very very low probability 

 

Von Neuman probes perhaps. Could well be.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Von_Neumann_machine