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AI generated buildings - Visuals decreased?

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One thing that is really weird, when I load up a flight.. I have okay-ish performance and things look word not allowed. 

Then I go in and do the trick, setting Medium and Apply, and then Ultra and Apply. I tweak a couple of sliders. Voila - looks much better.

But my performance is better and smoother on Ultra after doing the trick. Maybe it's just Motion Blur blending things nicely for me, but it seems smoother than on Medium. I think there's something really weird going on in the background.

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5 hours ago, Aristoteles said:

I am quite confident that with the HUGE amount of complain threads, 3rd party developers included, Asobo has no other alternative but improving what they have degraded in Su5. 

I'm just trying to be clear:  w/ the fix for the clear oversight that Nyxx David discovered, what else has been degraded when this fix is implemented?  It seems LOD in the distance is degraded but I'm not certain about that as there has been so much haze where I have been flying it's hard to tell for sure.   In general doesn't seem as crisp in most places.  My main question is if and when control will be reenabled to allow PC users to exploit all of these processing resources.  Right now flying over Los Angeles granted at 16K feet the main thread in the CPU is at 30%, VRAM 5400, GPU use 68%.  And I still haven't installed the 3080 Ti I bought!  I could sell it right now but I'm guessing/hoping they will add the potential for more detail.   I don't really see a downside for Asobo doing this.  The vast majority of Xbox S X/S users are not going to complain their friend's PC makes a better looking simulator so stop using MSFS.  Those folks if they care will switch to PC.  

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On 8/1/2021 at 12:30 AM, captain420 said:

I can also confirm to the method that Harry posted above. The same thing happens to me. Once loaded at the runway, then going to my settings, switch my graphic preset from ultra to low-end, hit apply and save, and then switch it back to ultra, hit apply and save, go back into the sim, and you can clearly see the windows and proper textures on those 2 buildings on the right of runway 27 at EGNX. It's like our settings are somehow not getting applied. 

1st image: Low-End Graphic Preset

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2nd image: Ultra Graphic Preset

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Still NOT fixed in hotfix 2

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English is not my first language.

If you move in closer (like a tiny bit), do the buildings fix themselves or does the problem remain?

 

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I can confirm the bug is not fixed with Hotfix 2, what a bummer, so still no chance to modify useropt.cfg for me... @Alpine Scenery moving in closer has no effect on my side, only the "workaround" with switching to another preset and back to "ultra"...

Seriously, how you can get things like this wrong and not fixed within 2 hotfixes? Unbelievable...

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3 minutes ago, AnkH said:

@Alpine Scenery moving in closer has no effect on my side, only the "workaround" with switching to another preset and back to "ultra"...

Can you reproduce the problem at other airports or buildings in other parts of the map?

Edited by Alpine Scenery

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6 minutes ago, AnkH said:

I can confirm the bug is not fixed with Hotfix 2, what a bummer, so still no chance to modify useropt.cfg for me... @Alpine Scenery moving in closer has no effect on my side, only the "workaround" with switching to another preset and back to "ultra"...

Seriously, how you can get things like this wrong and not fixed within 2 hotfixes? Unbelievable...

Well that is with one building you should test at different places and airports 😉

 

André
 

10 minutes ago, AnkH said:

I can confirm the bug is not fixed with Hotfix 2, what a bummer, so still no chance to modify useropt.cfg for me... @Alpine Scenery moving in closer has no effect on my side, only the "workaround" with switching to another preset and back to "ultra"...

Seriously, how you can get things like this wrong and not fixed within 2 hotfixes? Unbelievable...

Chris, you can just set building to LOW>Save>>>Set to ULTRA>save.

that seems to work, not tried with HF2, I wont even try, as it will be the same as your seeing. It seems untill SU6 I will do that dance for every flight. To make 100% my building are truly on Ultra.

 

Edited by Nyxx

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1 minute ago, Nyxx said:

Chris, you can just set building to LOW>Save>>>Set to ULTRA>save.

that seems to work, not tried with HF2, I wont even try, as it will be the same as your seeing. It seems untill SU6 I will do that dance for every flight. To make 100% my building are truly on Ultra.

 

David do you have it at different places, because here local I don't have the issue...

 

André
 

12 minutes ago, awf said:

David do you have it at different places, because here local I don't have the issue...

Hi Andre,

It was only found becasue its my local airport and I do all my testing there. Note its the only time I use a none addon paid airport as in P3D I only fly to and from addon airports. What I have noices is the addon airport and handcrafted dont have this problem, but....and i am not 100% sure but I have seen areas that dont look right untill I do the trick above. But unlike the airport were the test are done not only my me but people like Harry and Chris etc. Ive not gone out my way to do other tests. So can I say it effects areas and other default airports as well, no, but if the sim is not setting ultra fully on, its good to make sure. Just like the AF x16 is also not setting (not tried HF2 yet) so it needed setting in NCP. So there really is a problem with some setting sticking Andre. 

Edited by Nyxx

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1 minute ago, Nyxx said:

Hi Andre,

It was only found becasue its my local airport and I do all my testing there. Note its the only time I use a none addon paid airport as in P3D I only fly to and from addon airports. What I have noices is the addon airport dont have this problem, but....and i am not 100% sure but I save seen areas that dont look right untill I do the trick above. But unlike the airport were the test are done not only my me but people like Harry and Chris etc. Ive not gone out my way to do other tests. So can I say it effects areas and other default airports as well, no, but if the sim is not setting ultra full its good to make sure. Just like the AF x16 is also not setting (not tried HF2 yet) so it needed setting in NCP. So there really is a problem with some setting sticking Andre. 

Yes I have been reading also the AF from Jean Luc, but he is using VR... But I don't have the issue settings are saved, but I'm at HF2 which is great 🙂

I believe you guys, but it could be a bug on a local field that's why I'm curious if this is the case at other places as well...

 

André
 

7 minutes ago, awf said:

Yes I have been reading also the AF from Jean Luc, but he is using VR... But I don't have the issue settings are saved, but I'm at HF2 which is great 🙂

I believe you guys, but it could be a bug on a local field that's why I'm curious if this is the case at other places as well...

Some people seem not to have the problem with setting sticking am happy your one of them. Your right it could be a bug at EGNX. Also if I take off and to a long final ILS long when I land and before I land I see the airport has gone.....LOL. Some times the big builds are the right are there but the rest of the airport as gone and even if I taxi into where they should be building, there still not there. Even with the LOW-Ultra trick. People also report this from other airports....no idea whats going on 🙄

"I believe you guys" I know you do mate, we have been here a long long time we all get to know who we trust and dont 🙂 Thank you all the same.

Why is your Rep so low, your one of the nicest guys on here, have a few on me .

Edited by Nyxx

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3 minutes ago, Nyxx said:

Some people seem not to have the problem with setting sticking am happy your one of them. Your right it could be a bug at EGNX. Also if I take off and to a long final ILS long when I land and before I land I see the airport has gone.....LOL. Some times the big builds are the right are there but the rest of the airport as gone and even if I taxi into where they should be building, there still not there. Even with the LOW-Ultra trick. People also report this from other airports....no idea whats going on 🙄

Hope it will be solved soon for you guys I would make also a zendesk report if I had the issue, more the better to get noted...

 

André
 

3 minutes ago, awf said:

Hope it will be solved soon for you guys I would make also a zendesk report if I had the issue, more the better to get noted...

Harry did one.

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1 hour ago, Alpine Scenery said:

Can you reproduce the problem at other airports or buildings in other parts of the map?

I did not test many things so far and happen to not come across comparable buildings so far, so I do not really know. What I know is that in the official forums, other users reproduced it on other airports as well...

1 hour ago, Nyxx said:

Chris, you can just set building to LOW>Save>>>Set to ULTRA>save.

that seems to work, not tried with HF2, I wont even try, as it will be the same as your seeing. It seems untill SU6 I will do that dance for every flight. To make 100% my building are truly on Ultra.

That would be nice, but it would still rendering all my useropt.cfg adjustments obsolete for now. As soon as you do anything in the graphics menue, those adjustments are eliminated. In my case I am talking about sharpen=0, which is almost a must to avoid tree shimmering in the distance. So, for now, I have either "sharpen=0" in the config and low end buildings or this annoying sharpening but ultra buildings...

Greetings, Chris

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