2 hours ago, Pathfinder633 said:

Yep no surprise its full of 12 year olds...enjoy

Discord itself is what you want it to be, you can even start a channel that is exclusively for those who you consider to be good enough to communicate with you.
There is nothing intrinsically wrong with being 12, we all were once.
Ill manners cover the entire spectrum of humanity.

This whole forum thing is too new and complicated, can't we just go back to using the bulletin board systems we had in the days of dial-up modems.  There are too many darn kids in their 50's and under around here.... 😇

Given the difference of opinion here it would seem that discord is very appropriately named.

Personally I didn't get past two clicks on discord before I concluded life's too short. I get no enjoyment out of unnecessary complications just for their own sake......different mindsets get a buzz out of different things I suppose.

17 minutes ago, GaryK said:

Given the difference of opinion here it would seem that discord is very appropriately named.

Personally I didn't get past two clicks on discord before I concluded life's too short. I get no enjoyment out of unnecessary complications just for their own sake......different mindsets get a buzz out of different things I suppose.

There are people today that don't like to use Google...Go figure. 

Acclimated, adjusted, used to.   Things like Discord are tools that we all have to adjust to if the devs, who give us our simming stuff, choose to use it for communication.

Small price to pay for what we get I believe. 🙂 

We really can't state in one sentence that Discord is hard to learn, then in the very next ask what's the best affinity settings for a 4790k....or how to manage the fuel tanks in a 747 or do Celestial Navigation in the DC-6. Our brains deserve better than that...its our "motivation" that is the real issue here...certainly not "complex" software as we've all proved by being here that we "can" learn. 🙂 

Years ago I was pretty "acclimated" to Paint Shop Pro (PSP)...I had Photoshop (PS), but preferred PSP as that is what I learned on.   Whenever I had to drop into PS to do something as PSP could not convert the format, I moaned, groaned and complained how hard and unintuitive it was.  As time passed and PSP features and performance dropped (when we started working on 4k maps and 64bit), I reluctantly started to transition to PS.  

It took a while...but, had I given up and griped it was too hard...I could have never turned this:

Into this:

Let's put some perspective about inner motivation into the real issue.  Personally, I too found Discord hard and confusing at first, but if a dev is giving me free stuff, and chooses to only post their updates in Discord...I'm gonna learn Discord, not complain about how much I hate it. 🙂

5 hours ago, Stoopy said:

This whole forum thing is too new and complicated, can't we just go back to using the bulletin board systems we had in the days of dial-up modems.  There are too many darn kids in their 50's and under around here.... 😇

I remember being excited when I unboxed my 56k modem.  It was so much faster than the 38k modem it replaced.  😁

I remember when local computer stores had bulletin boards on the wall where BBS admins or users would all post the phone numbers to their bulletin boards.   That was before the internet in it's present state.     We used to buy computer magazines from those stores,  and the magazines would have the code for simple programs printed in them.  We'd spend the day going cross-eyed,  entering that data,   just to make something happen that wouldn't make someone look twice today (like a wall of text shaped like a rabbit, or a super basic 2d game).     I remember being a kid,  and not having any non-volatile storage medium.  Personal computers didn't come stock with them back them,  the were sold separately.  Enter data all day, and it  was gone when the computer turned off.    Then I got a 5 and 1/4 inch floppy.   Later on,  a drive that used regular audio cassette tapes.   It's comical to look back on,   but great times for a kid.   Comical to think that floppy drives stuck around into the 90's.

 

5 hours ago, GaryK said:

Given the difference of opinion here it would seem that discord is very appropriately named.

Personally I didn't get past two clicks on discord before I concluded life's too short. I get no enjoyment out of unnecessary complications just for their own sake......different mindsets get a buzz out of different things I suppose.

It's not what I enjoy or not,  because I don't enjoy Discord.  For me,  it's more like a rat and cheese.  I'm the rat,  and someone else put the cheese on Discord.   The cheese is different for everyone.   For me it's the people I fly with.  I've enjoyed the spirit of aviation since I was a kid,  and every aviator's experience is different.  I can be minding my own business in the group one minute,  and the next minute I can ask a RL DC-3 pilot who actually flew for Buffalo Airways to teach me something.  Or,  to tell me a funny story.   At this point of his career he captain's a 787,  and I can ask him about what he's learned along the way.   I'll put up with Discord no matter how much it hurts my eyes,  just for the random DC-3 bush pilot stories alone.

Edited August 29, 20214 yr by Waldo Pepper

3 hours ago, Steve Dra said:

Acclimated, adjusted, used to.   Things like Discord are tools that we all have to adjust to if the devs, who give us our simming stuff, choose to use it for communication.

Small price to pay for what we get I believe. 🙂 

We really can't state in one sentence that Discord is hard to learn, then in the very next ask what's the best affinity settings for a 4790k....or how to manage the fuel tanks in a 747 or do Celestial Navigation in the DC-6. Our brains deserve better than that...its our "motivation" that is the real issue here...certainly not "complex" software as we've all proved by being here that we "can" learn. 🙂 

Years ago I was pretty "acclimated" to Paint Shop Pro (PSP)...I had Photoshop (PS), but preferred PSP as that is what I learned on.   Whenever I had to drop into PS to do something as PSP could not convert the format, I moaned, groaned and complained how hard and unintuitive it was.  As time passed and PSP features and performance dropped (when we started working on 4k maps and 64bit), I reluctantly started to transition to PS.  

It took a while...but, had I given up and griped it was too hard...I could have never turned this:

Into this:

Let's put some perspective about inner motivation into the real issue.  Personally, I too found Discord hard and confusing at first, but if a dev is giving me free stuff, and chooses to only post their updates in Discord...I'm gonna learn Discord, not complain about how much I hate it. 🙂

That's actually pretty cool to see in it's 2d form.

2 hours ago, Waldo Pepper said:

I remember being excited when I unboxed my 56k modem.  It was so much faster than the 38k modem it replaced.  😁

I remember when local computer stores had bulletin boards on the wall where BBS admins or users would all post the phone numbers to their bulletin boards.   That was before the internet in it's present state.     We used to buy computer magazines from those stores,  and the magazines would have the code for simple programs printed in them.  We'd spend the day going cross-eyed,  entering that data,   just to make something happen that wouldn't make someone look twice today (like a wall of text shaped like a rabbit, or a super basic 2d game).     I remember being a kid,  and not having any non-volatile storage medium.  Personal computers didn't come stock with them back them,  the were sold separately.  Enter data all day, and it  was gone when the computer turned off.    Then I got a 5 and 1/4 inch floppy.   Later on,  a drive that used regular audio cassette tapes.   It's comical to look back on,   but great times for a kid.   Comical to think that floppy drives stuck around into the 90's.

 

We used to dream of having a 38K modem.  Actually I started out with a Hayes 300 baud modem on the good ol' C=64.  Usually the transition was from tape cassette storage to floppy, not vice versa.  There was nothing more aggravating than sitting through a 20 minute load sequence from cassette only to have it error out at the end. Floppies were game-changing technology!

By the time 24K modems came along we had transitioned to the Amiga and my friends and I had a BBS that we organized ladder competitions for one-on-one dogfighting via modem with Fighter Duel Pro.  What great, fun times those were though.  

52 minutes ago, Stoopy said:

We used to dream of having a 38K modem.  Actually I started out with a Hayes 300 baud modem on the good ol' C=64.  Usually the transition was from tape cassette storage to floppy, not vice versa.  There was nothing more aggravating than sitting through a 20 minute load sequence from cassette only to have it error out at the end. Floppies were game-changing technology!

By the time 24K modems came along we had transitioned to the Amiga and my friends and I had a BBS that we organized ladder competitions for one-on-one dogfighting via modem with Fighter Duel Pro.  What great, fun times those were though.  

I had a C64,  and a 300 baud modem too.   It's been so long,  couldn't remember which was which.

18 hours ago, Waldo Pepper said:

I had a C64,  and a 300 baud modem too

Same here, but with a TI-99/4A.     I remember upgrading to a 2400 baud modem and being amazed that I could no longer read the text in real time as it slowly flowed onto the screen.  😄

I now love the discord, it is realy great; the last 3 days i flown the 787-10 with the B78XH mod what is overworked from Comi ( the dev ) and now the direct to what is sutch a long time in the mod is now working for me..

Didn`t worked for me since the mod hit the market but seems it worked for others but maybe not for all, but now it works. Also Delete a waypoint and set and make a hold works superb - realy great mod now.

I chatted with the people there ( and with Comi ) and as i did this he fixed some things and you learn the mod as there are mostly some stuff you not understand the way you should use it.

So i learned a lot over that mod, he have to do still fix some things but now this mod is like Saltys and Salty is great IMO.

Just to inform and let you know - great way to fly the 787-10 now with this mod. ( But as said with todays Update it works but still some small fixes to do and a lot more things to come in the future as they said..)

 

cheers 😉

Edited September 1, 20214 yr by pmplayer

On 8/29/2021 at 11:01 AM, Reader said:

Discord itself is what you want it to be

No it isnt, its what the people running it and the collective members make it.

I used to go to the Official MSFS Discord and I can assure you it isnt what I want it to be

I double hate that platform. 😀

Couldn't even work out how to join......mind you I didn't try very hard😂

Anything these days should be straightforward, there is no reason on earth why it should be so user unfriendly......unless of course they want to deter the casual user who really doesn't have the time to faff around. If that is the case then they are welcome to it. The irony of calling a community "Discord" speaks volumes.

>>Discord:

noun

lack of concord or harmony between persons or things:marital discord.

disagreement; difference of opinion.

strife; dispute; war.

Music. an inharmonious combination of musical tones sounded together.

any confused or harsh noise; dissonance.<<

It's for "serious" users methinks.

Edited May 3, 20224 yr by GaryK
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