August 31, 20214 yr Main change: It is possible to use a "master" configuration for an aircraft and mere liveries of it will reference back to it without creating their own copy (but you can still do that of course. Have to go to where you purchased in order to update. At JustFlight: your account, your orders. Version listed to download will be the latest (list shows version and date). By the way, none of the Sensitivities adjustments in MSFS will allow for an expanded range of values for an axis (e.g. throttle RPM). AAO allows that easily. In MSFS Sensitivities you can reduce the range (Extremity Deadzone) but you can't extend it. But AAO can. So if your top end RPM looks weak, use AAO to fix that by just moving a slider in the AAO graphical interface. MSFS external view has a little RPM dial gauge that will show the results. This is just one example of fixing controller 'issues' with AAO. e.g. You can speed up or slow down how fast the trim wheels and knobs move in the cockpit. 5800X3D, RTX4070, 600 Watt, one or two 1440p 32" screens, 64 GB RAM, 4 TB PCle 3 NVMe, Warthog throttle, VKB NXT EVO stick, Honeycomb Alpha yoke, CH quad, 3 Logitech panels, 2 StreamDecks, Desktop Aviator Trim Panel. Crystal Light VR.
August 31, 20214 yr I use it and love it. I have zero assignments in MSFS since buying AAO. Just load a plane and the correct assignments (that I've pre-assigned) just load up. AAO even loads itself with MSFS, which is a mystery to me as an external program, because I never asked it to, so don't know how it's doing that..... but I love it! 😁 They read my mind with this update, because the one thing that irritated me was having to copy over assignments for every single livery. I also use it to control my Saitek Multi Panel (AP), in place of the stock drivers / SPAD. As with SPAD, you can customise all of the buttons and dials with it. Really underrated program IMHO. Cheers for the heads up about the update 👍 Bill 😎FS2024 • Currently in 'GA mode' : A2A Comanche 2024 & Aerostar • Black Square C208, Bonanzas, Barons, TBM850, Dukes • COWS DA40 & DA42 • FSW Legacy, C24R Sierra & C414 • Echo Falco F8L • FFX HJET, Visionjet and P180 2024 • Got Friends A32 Vixxen • FSReborn Sirius TL3000, Sting S4 and Piper M500 • Flyboy Rans S6S • Skyward DA50RG • SWS Zenith CH701, RV-8, RV-10, RV-14, PC12 • Milviz C310R • Air Foil Labs Bristell B23 TrackIR • BeyondATC • PMS GTN Payware • RealTurb • Axis & Ohs • FS Realistic Pro9800X3D • RTX 3080 • 64GB DDR5-6000NPPL licence holder in the UK
August 31, 20214 yr 21 minutes ago, solito said: Sorry, but what is AAO ? what the thread title says: axis and ohs "Axis and Ohs is an external application that replaces the controller (=yokes, joysticks, etc) logic" The app supports native Windows USB Game Controller devices and MIDI devices. Feature list: Controller profiles are loaded and saved individually to your aircraft in the simulator. This enables you to assign the same controllers in a different way for each aircraft that you fly. Controller axis can be calibrated, response curves are available Every axis and event of the simulator can be assigned and used A "Mouse Yoke" mode is included, for those simulators that don't have it by default (=MSFS) The app includes virtual flight instruments that can be dragged to one of your monitors or accessed using the web browser on your phone or tablet when they are in your LAN or WiFi. Saitek Multi, Radio and Switch Panels are supported (updated for MSFS events and 8.333 KHz spacing) description on youtube: axis and ohs DEMO version axisandohs.weebly.com/downloads Edited August 31, 20214 yr by turbomax AMD 7800X3D, Windows 11, Gigabyte X670 AORUS Elite AX Motherboard, 64GB DDR5 G.SKILL Trident Z5 NEO RGB (AMD Expo), RTX 4090, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2 TB PCIe 4.0, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 1 TB PCIe 4.0, 4K resolution 50" TV @60Hz, VR: Pimax Crystal Light + HP Reverb G2 @ 90 Hz, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, be quiet 1000W PSU, Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black air cooler. 60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking. very nice.
August 31, 20214 yr I highly recommend this program! I use it to have my Behringer XTouch mini MIDI device all set up to control the WT CJ4. It's absolutely the coolest addition to my minimalist laptop setup! Also the developer is very attentive and will answer any question you have, top notch stuff.
September 1, 20214 yr Author My problem as stated in another thread is JF Arrow III needs about a 15 on scale of 0 to 20 right rudder trim to fly straight. Use a mouse or a controller button assigned in MSFS, that trim dial moves very slowly. So you take off and then hold down your assigned trim button or spin the mouse dial a full minute to trim. :(. AAO will not change anything already assigned to your controllers by MSFS itself. It will only add additional assignments. Usually stuff that can't be done by MSFS itself. I set up Axis and Ohs with 4 new assignments: Rudder trim right, left, right fast, and left fast. There is no 'trim fast' assignment in MSFS, can't make that trim dial spin except very slowly, in the Piper Arrow. Because JustFlight created it that way. The "Surpress Key Down Event" checkbox is just a long winded phrase meaning the toggle button (19) is not ON, but has been left in the backward position (OFF). So if I have the toggle (19) off, then the two toggles above it (30 and 31) will turn the trim slowly. But if I push that 19 toggle forward and leave it there, then the two toggles above it will spin the trim knob really fast, left or right. Or I could chose 'medium' speed, or change numbers in the ms boxes to specify an exact speed. If I had not checked the 'repeat' box, then 31 and 32 would only move the knob one click. Repeat means the dial will keep spinning as long as you hold one of the top toggles forward (they spring back when released). Works like a champ! Edited September 1, 20214 yr by Fielder 5800X3D, RTX4070, 600 Watt, one or two 1440p 32" screens, 64 GB RAM, 4 TB PCle 3 NVMe, Warthog throttle, VKB NXT EVO stick, Honeycomb Alpha yoke, CH quad, 3 Logitech panels, 2 StreamDecks, Desktop Aviator Trim Panel. Crystal Light VR.
September 1, 20214 yr I got a Streamdeck XL for my birthday (thanks to my wife!). Would you guys pick Flightdeck or AAO?!
September 1, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, swiesma said: I got a Streamdeck XL for my birthday (thanks to my wife!). Would you guys pick Flightdeck or AAO?! Please have a Look at the already existing AAO profiles and decide https://flightsim.to/profile/Guenseli/uploads Guenter Steiner -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Betatester for: A2A, LORBY, FSR-Pillow Tester --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
September 1, 20214 yr I own AAO and like many of its features. The killer for me is its inability to read Go-Flight rotaries. Of course, as we all with MSFA GO-Flight has abandoned all of its customers. So the easy to use program that will read Go-Flight rotaries and buttons is FSUIPC. So, that is what I still use. I do like the way AOA improves with each update.. It UI is clean and modern. It is easy to capture LVARS and HVARS, if you are into scripting. JohnMy first SIM was a Link Trainer. My last was a T-6 IIAMD Ryzen 7 7800 X3D@ 5.1 GHz, 32 GB DDR5 RAM - 3 M2 Drives. 1 TB Boot, 2 TB Sim drive, 2 TB Add-on Drive, 6TB Backup data hard driveRTX 3080 10GB VRAM, Meta Quest 3 VR Headset
September 1, 20214 yr Am interested in how well AAO works in MSFS with rudder control. With MSFS calibration I just cannot find a happy median between rudder ground steering and rudder control when airborne. If I adjust for realistic control in the air I get lethargic ground steering. If I adjust for realistic ground steering then I get very oversensitive rudder action when flying. Again, with MSFS calibration. I believe I am currently at -40 or -45. Does AAO have a method for separately calibrating ground vs in air? Or am I saddled with a native MSFS issue that needs correction? Frank Patton Corsair 5000D Airflow Case; MSI B650 Tomahawk MOB; Ryzen 7 7800 X3D CPU; ASUS RTX 4080 Super; NZXT 360mm liquid cooler; Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5 4800 MHz RAM; RMX850X Gold PSU;; ASUS VG289 4K 27" Display; Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo, Crosswind 3's w/dampener. Former USAF meteorologist & ground weather school instructor. AOPA Member #07379126 "I will never put my name on a product that does not have in it the best that is in me." - John Deere
September 1, 20214 yr Should you select the aircraft profile each time you fly it, or is automatic as FSUIPC allowed at FSX ?
September 1, 20214 yr 30 minutes ago, solito said: Should you select the aircraft profile each time you fly it, or is automatic as FSUIPC allowed at FSX ? Once you set a profile of assignments for an aircraft, that profile will always load automatically, when you load that plane in MSFS. Historically, every single repaint had it's own profile, which meant that every time you installed a new repaints, you had to 'copy' over the profile from another repaint of that plane. (Only took a couple of seconds, but involved having to ALT out of MSFS to make the change in AAO. However, from this latest update, you can configure AAO to use the same profile for all repaints, for a given plane. Bill 😎FS2024 • Currently in 'GA mode' : A2A Comanche 2024 & Aerostar • Black Square C208, Bonanzas, Barons, TBM850, Dukes • COWS DA40 & DA42 • FSW Legacy, C24R Sierra & C414 • Echo Falco F8L • FFX HJET, Visionjet and P180 2024 • Got Friends A32 Vixxen • FSReborn Sirius TL3000, Sting S4 and Piper M500 • Flyboy Rans S6S • Skyward DA50RG • SWS Zenith CH701, RV-8, RV-10, RV-14, PC12 • Milviz C310R • Air Foil Labs Bristell B23 TrackIR • BeyondATC • PMS GTN Payware • RealTurb • Axis & Ohs • FS Realistic Pro9800X3D • RTX 3080 • 64GB DDR5-6000NPPL licence holder in the UK
September 1, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, fppilot said: Am interested in how well AAO works in MSFS with rudder control. With MSFS calibration I just cannot find a happy median between rudder ground steering and rudder control when airborne. If I adjust for realistic control in the air I get lethargic ground steering. If I adjust for realistic ground steering then I get very oversensitive rudder action when flying. Again, with MSFS calibration. I believe I am currently at -40 or -45. Does AAO have a method for separately calibrating ground vs in air? Or am I saddled with a native MSFS issue that needs correction? Yes, this (in bold), I'm afraid. AAO is more versatile in controlling assignment calibration and sensitivity but the issues with ground and air yaw dynamics being so inconsistant, is wholly a problem within MSFS. Bill 😎FS2024 • Currently in 'GA mode' : A2A Comanche 2024 & Aerostar • Black Square C208, Bonanzas, Barons, TBM850, Dukes • COWS DA40 & DA42 • FSW Legacy, C24R Sierra & C414 • Echo Falco F8L • FFX HJET, Visionjet and P180 2024 • Got Friends A32 Vixxen • FSReborn Sirius TL3000, Sting S4 and Piper M500 • Flyboy Rans S6S • Skyward DA50RG • SWS Zenith CH701, RV-8, RV-10, RV-14, PC12 • Milviz C310R • Air Foil Labs Bristell B23 TrackIR • BeyondATC • PMS GTN Payware • RealTurb • Axis & Ohs • FS Realistic Pro9800X3D • RTX 3080 • 64GB DDR5-6000NPPL licence holder in the UK
September 1, 20214 yr 4 hours ago, JYW said: Once you set a profile of assignments for an aircraft, that profile will always load automatically, when you load that plane in MSFS. how does this work? the control assignments get assigned to the aircraft that you have currently loaded? you don't assign a setting explicitly to an arbitrary aircraft, but MSFS assigns it for you to the one currently active? if so, you have to go through this procedure to each and every single aircraft again? or do you load a previous setting and then assign it to the new airplane via APPLY before leaving the CONTROLS menu? AMD 7800X3D, Windows 11, Gigabyte X670 AORUS Elite AX Motherboard, 64GB DDR5 G.SKILL Trident Z5 NEO RGB (AMD Expo), RTX 4090, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2 TB PCIe 4.0, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 1 TB PCIe 4.0, 4K resolution 50" TV @60Hz, VR: Pimax Crystal Light + HP Reverb G2 @ 90 Hz, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, be quiet 1000W PSU, Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black air cooler. 60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking. very nice.
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