4 hours ago, Fielder said:

I have 4 warbirds. the FlyingIron Spit is the best of the bunch.

I have been holding off on it because of the crazy take off and landing characteristics.... is it something you can master?

 

14 hours ago, Kilo60 said:

Nice!

 

Finally have something to shoot down the d@mn JU-52 with!

Well one was predominantly ETO and the other PTO but I am sure they crossed paths at some point.

1 hour ago, Nyxx said:

 

Thanks for posting that video - it definitely whets the appetite!

If I had to pick nits, the pilot's training material says not to use full flaps until the landing is "in the bag" and it would have been interesting to see if the nosewheel was modelled to be freely castering like the real thing.   Also curious how compressibility and the dive brakes may be modelled.  But we shall see for ourselves soon!

Love the cockpit weathering although the the gauges don't look quite as nice as the IL2 version which also gives you a convenient place to add your own custom cockpit photo... 😁

 

Edited September 11, 20214 yr by Stoopy

23 minutes ago, Stoopy said:

Love the cockpit weathering although the the gauges don't look quite as nice as the IL2 version

Yup, the gauges are a little disappointing looks wise, but apart from that I'm impressed.

One thing I'm sure of is it'll continue to get worked on after release if the Spit is anything to go by.  Really like these devs!

 

@Nyxx Thanks for posting the vid!  Into the Blue is by far my favorite flight sim reviewer on Youtube. He deserves way more subscribers imo.  CLEAR PROP!

5 hours ago, Stoopy said:

it would have been interesting to see if the nosewheel was modelled to be freely castering like the real thing

That is trivial in MSFS.

36 minutes ago, odourboy said:

That is trivial in MSFS.

??

Hardly trivial when it comes to taxiing using differential braking and power only, as opposed to having nosewheel steering to guide the aeroplane....

 

Edited September 11, 20214 yr by Stoopy

Me: I have 4 warbirds. the FlyingIron Spit is the best of the bunch.

You: I have been holding off on it because of the crazy take off and landing characteristics.... is it something you can master?

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That Spit is easier to take off and land than the P-40 or Corsair. Also the later modded versions of the FlyingIron Spitfire are tamed down a little, and a little easier to handle. Another P-40 patch came out today which I haven't tried.

None are easy to fly. Try AvAngel's youtube videos. She's a pretty casual flyer and lands these beasts OK. The problem is that you have to come in real fast, but the speed will drop quickly when you need it too. And you probably need to clone your stick/yoke profile and then adjust the sensitivities to get a good one for warbirds.

With the Spitfire you must reduce RPM to the safe zone after climbing, or even later in the climb if you are going really high which takes a long time. Otherwise the engine will melt. The green/red zone in outside view RPM icon is the clue how many revolutions should be your top end should be.

I think a jet fighter (1950's) will easier to fly. And for me, easier to land although it needs to come in even faster. Such as the Lionheart one. But others here seem to disagree with that.

The Spit is the easiest to handle warbird, but still a challenge.

In real life the easiest to fly famous one was the Zero. And that was true when A2A made a package of fighters for FS 2002. The Zero was easier to control and land than the other 3 in the package.

 

7 hours ago, Glenn Fitzpatrick said:

Well one was predominantly ETO and the other PTO but I am sure they crossed paths at some point.

I believe some flew over Normandy during the invasion and even had the invasion strips painted on them so as not to be shot down by other allies!

The P38 did not have a steerable nosewheel. Differential throttles and brakes were what you had besides the rudder. You were seated high and could see ahead very easily.

1 hour ago, Stoopy said:

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Hardly trivial when it comes to taxiing using differential braking and power only, as opposed to having nosewheel steering to guide the aeroplane....

 

What I meant was it is easy to configure an aircraft in msfs with a castering wheel, and it behaves in an effective manner. To your point, with a bit of practice and some decent pedals it's not difficult to master either and works better than P3D differential braking.

Edited September 11, 20214 yr by odourboy

I thought this was a really good preview that shows of many of the nice features of this model:

 

After watching last video with single engine ops and Vmc roll - must have!

In terms of historical references to something being "easy to fly"  it needs to be taken in context. 

Saying something like a Spitfire was "easy to fly" back in the day was not relative to a Cessna c172 (which would not exist for another 20 years anyway) it was "easy" compared to something like it's immediate predecessor, the Gloucester Gladiator, which would kill you if your attention wandered for even a second.

For example 72 sqn - just one squadron flying Gladiators lost quite a few pilots in non combat incidents, many in training before the war actually even started - it is not surprising the Spitfire was seen as "easy to fly" in comparison.

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K6130
22/02/37 From Manufacturer
11/05/39 Transferred to HMS Argus to form 112 Sq.
18/07/40 Hit a hill obscured by a cloud at Qaret el Naga. Aircraft destroyed. F/O Gray-Worcester killed.

K6133
22/02/37 From Manufacturer
23/07/37 Flew into ground out of cloud on ferry flight, Sealand – Church Fenton, Barmby, Yorkshire , and destroyed by fire, pilot killed.
Written off (63.10 hours)

K6138
04/03/37 From Manufacturer
29/06/38 Collided with K6139 2 miles South of Selby in Yorkshire but returned safely to base.
11/05/39 Transferred to HMS Argus to form 112 Sq.
09/02/41 CR.42 claimed by Sgt Gregory of 80 Sq.

K6139
04/03/37 From Manufacturer
11/03/37 Engine cut and a/c force landed and overturned at Odiham.
Returned to Squadron after repair.
29/06/38 Collided with K6138 and crashed 2miles South of Selby, Yorkshire.
Pilot killed, Aircraft destroyed .
Written off (105.27 hrs)

K6144
31/03/37 From Manufacturer
01/12/38 Abandoned in spin, Monk Freyston, Yorks.
Written off (122.45 hours)

K7969
05/10/38 From 85 Sq.
10/03/39 Engine cut and hit hedge in forced landing, Ledsham, Yorkshire. Aircraft repaired.
11/05/39 Transferred to HMS Argus to form 112 Sq.

K7934
26/05/37 From Manufacturer.
07/02/38 Hit high tension cables on hill in mist and crashed 4 miles north of Brough.
Aircraft destroyed by fire and pilot killed.
Written off (107.20 hours)

K6131
22/02/37 From Manufacturer
26/03/38 Ran out of fuel on approach to forced landing while lost and overturned and wrecked.
Wreck transferred to 9 FTS.

 

 

Edited September 14, 20214 yr by Glenn Fitzpatrick

1 hour ago, Glenn Fitzpatrick said:

In terms of historical references to something being "easy to fly"  it needs to be taken in context. 

Saying something like a Spitfire was "easy to fly" back in the day was not relative to a Cessna c172 (which would not exist for another 20 years anyway) it was "easy" compared to something like it's immediate predecessor, the Gloucester Gladiator, which would kill you if your attention wandered for even a second.

For example 72 sqn - just one squadron flying Gladiators lost quite a few pilots in non combat incidents, many in training before the war actually even started - it is not surprising the Spitfire was seen as "easy to fly" in comparison.

 

Those accident report look pretty much like modern GA stats: CFIT, Loss Control in IMC, Run of  fuel...