3 minutes ago, kt069 said:

It is still hard for me  to understand why MS / Asobo  did not make improvements yet on some small items that seems to be easiy.

Actually they made it worse in a recent Update as access to filters is a two-tier process now (Space for more)  !

The different points of view in this thread may come from how one uses the sim. I exclusively use Free Flight and the planner. Never the bush trips or discoveries or the training. I do not mind to see the large "activities" boxes but I do mind that preparing a flight involves so many back and forth with the filters if you use them at their full potential as I do. It is a powerful tool which is rather  unfortunately very cumbersome and barely useable. Fortunately we have Little Nav Map tool bar but it is sad that we need an addon to prepare the basic of a flight in what is supposed to be the next gen sim.

As to know Neuman's priorities... I am an user and I do not have to think about how he sees things. I even think, curiously, that it should be the other way around. 

 Now back to preparing a flight where nobody has gone before 😄 !

No issue to me as I let MSFS load into the main menu / world map - airport / rw 

To me other bugs / features are more important :

- AI traffic working 

- More AI aircraft types (eg : 737 / A380)

- Straight runways instead of bumpy ones 

- Improved SDK 

- Multi monitor support

1 hour ago, Ixoye said:

You get my vote! this game has the less user-friendly UI that I have seen in a long time, eg, I would like to see more drop-down list, especially for the controller configurations, it is a pain to browse through them every time you want to change aircraft.

Yes a pain , missing the easy import/export all option like in P3D

Michael Moe

I'm fine with the GUI in MSFS. Is it perfect? Nope, but it's a lot better than some others out there.

How could one possibly improve a UI designed for an IPhone when we're all using large, hi-res screens? 🙈

5 hours ago, abrams_tank said:

as bad as the UI is, especially on the World Map screen....

I don't get this POV, except I could do without Landmarks appearing on the WM which I most often toggle off first thing.  Needs fixed, easy peasy to just stop resetting and leave the filters where the user last set them and I would predict this will quickly change in an upcoming SU.  To start a flight plan:  scroll the WM and find the departure airport, or type it in directly.  Easy as pie.  Next, select Details--brilliant!  And/or, choose the type of gate from the dropdown.  Easy!  Next, choose the arrival airport, or type one in.   Finally, choose the type of flight VFR or IFR.  The only thing I miss here is IFR Direct, but this is easy to work around in midflight, but needs to be added.   What exactly is so bad about WM screen?  Being able to see cloud coverage in the WM is huge, especially compared to the 20y/o flight planner that I was used to in P3D.  

4 hours ago, kt069 said:

It is still hard for me  to understand why MS / Asobo  did not make improvements yet on some small items that seems to be easiy.

Because they decided most important of all, initially, was to get the core scenery, lighting and atmospherics engine performing very well on a very wide range of hardware including a console.   Apparently this takes a lot of work!  Others in another thread bemoan the fact AI isn't using real airline liveries because it's the 'most important factor in immersion'.  They forgot above AI liveries in the hierarchy of immersion comes the incredibly immersive scenery, atmosphere and lighting where real airline liveries are inserted--you know, what keeps us all in this thus far!   There are a massive number of really well done airports that users just seem to brush over as a given.  I just flew out of FACT in the impressive default B787 HD and that airport was stunningly well done.  Easy peasy for 'modders' to do what they do because they don't play a role in the core engine nor even the basic plane like the B787 of which 99% was already done--they dart in and work on small pieces that have already been created then get massive accolades from users, whereas Asobo is nailed for not delivering perfection  out of the gate.  Put the project in context and you won't have a hard time understanding why the sim is where it is today, and getting better steadily.

8 hours ago, Dominique_K said:

The UI is the less user-friendly that I have seen for a long time.  The guy in charge was obviously trying to do something « modern » instead of doing something useful.

What really annoys me is the « open filters » menu of the World Map. To have to open and close it each time you want to change an option is a PITA. Apparently he/she doesn’t know about the tool icon bar concept...

 

 Well, the UI was obviously configured for Console use with a Controller...

 

There should have been a separate UI developed for PC with a mouse and higher resolutions in mind.

 

Heck, I would have settled for an exact copy of the FSX UI at this point!

5 hours ago, GSalden said:

- Straight runways instead of bumpy ones

Are you serious? Runways slope and relief has been expected in a sim for ages.

7 hours ago, abrams_tank said:

But right now, there are more pressing things to fix.  Get the flight model better, get the ground handling better, open up weather/terrain radar for 3rd party devs, reduce the CTDs, etc.

This has been mentioned before, but the UX / UI team are different from those working on the engine...that's literally their primary job. However I do see the hesitation in asking for any improvements because we've seen such regressions and catastrophic failures from seemingly unrelated parts of the sim breaking each other.   

Thing about UI's is that you get used to them, which I did and now prefer no changes.  Definitely not to an old school PC UI. 

Regards 

bs

Though parts of the UI are clumsy, such as even navigating to import flight plans, the main hair-pulling issue for me is the horrible controller options system.  Having to change to saved settings for aircraft by clicking left /right arrows, then waiting for the system to refresh, then going to the next, then the next, then the next is mind-boggling - and that's with just a few aircraft!  Down the road this access system will be a nightmare with even 10 aircraft, let alone 20-30!

This could be so much better with just drop downs!  A drop-down menu would instantly show all saved aircraft, you slide the mouse down and click on it and done!

3 hours ago, Capt Timeter said:

Are you serious? Runways slope and relief has been expected in a sim for ages.

I think he meant something else. Slope/relief and speed bumps are two different things. The former is good, the latter bad. Having speed bumps in runways which you have on busy city streets to slow down Porches, Lamborghinis and muscle cars is simply ridiculous. 😂

Eliminating speed bumps would hopefully also result in road flattening in steep mountain roads.

4 hours ago, Capt Timeter said:

Are you serious? Runways slope and relief has been expected in a sim for ages.

Did you read what I wrote : straight runways instead of bumpy runways … 

I did not mean sloped runways and not horizontal runways 

Take a handcrafted default airport like Amsterdam Schiphol and look in the distance on every runway. Then you will see what I mean.
Terrible with all the bumps which you can “feel” when rolling on the runway.

10 hours ago, abrams_tank said:

They have 50,000 things to fix.  IMO, UI is the least important.  And I am saying this, thinking the UI is pretty bad, especially from the world map screen when planning a flight.

But right now, there are more pressing things to fix.  Get the flight model better, get the ground handling better, open up weather/terrain radar for 3rd party devs, reduce the CTDs, etc.

For example, if a developer working on the UI is also capable of tracking down CTDs (which is very likely since tracking down CTDs can be a general software developer skill and isn't really a specialized skill), I would rather have this developer tracking down CTDs than fixing the UI.

Maybe after 3 years, we can approach Asobo to fix the UI then? Until then, the UI is not a priority for me - as bad as the UI is, especially on the World Map screen, it's usable.  There are just so many other high priority issues to fix.

Get your point and share your sentiments.

I voted because I want it to be on their "radar"

8 minutes ago, GSalden said:

Terrible with all the bumps which you can “feel” when rolling on the runway.

I don't understand what you mean. For me, everything with the runways is fine.