gigabit spectrum is what i have around 380 to 420Mbps over wifi had noticed weird buildings (im legend sort of look) sometimes when i flight to a new city near downtown for the first time . after that buildings tend to look a bit better . 

Wow, I had no idea that generic could look that good with PG off.  I will definitely have to try it out.

9 hours ago, Lord Farringdon said:

It's a great city but our technical infrastructure is poked due to years of neglect.  

(and come on, you can't have 5 Mbps in 2022!)

Sadly @MrFuzzy, I can......

Living in a city with a population of 600 000+ and max I get is 6 Mbps down at my place and 25-ish if I went for 4G. I feel your pain. It seems my neighborhood is about to get fibre though, so if my country/city, which have always been good at neglecting digital infrastructure, can wake up, I'm sure NZ can, too.

On 10/25/2021 at 8:30 PM, johnbow72 said:

Sorry to hear about your abysmal DL speed , one thought would be using manual caching for a area :

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/purpose-of-manual-cache/290506

I had a look at this @johnbow72.  Interesting learning how to set up the manual cache. Have never done that before. (Don't try this at home folks 🤣) . 

Unfortunately it didn't help for the photogrammetry download since unless you have the internet speed to download this data, the manual cache is only going to cache the data that arrives. So if PG is selected but download speed is not sufficient and you just ignore the inevitable message, you end up with a cache of melted buildings LOL.   But for helping a slow GPU to process data (autogen or PG ..assuming good internet  speed),  this would be a boon. So if your card is a little old or a little slow, but your internet connection is good, manual cache looks like a fantastic capability!  Asobo have certainly tried to balance the application of improved graphics with legacy hardware. Well done.    

Thanks again for John for suggestion. 

Cheers

 

Terry

  

22 hours ago, Espana Pete said:

I have no idea if this workaround is available in your neck of the woods, but where I live there are no landlines at all so the only way of getting the internet is as follows: buy a sim card modem (mine is the Huawei) and take out a date limit free smartphone sim card contract to bung in it. That is of course providing you can get good 4g signal in your area. I can manage d/l speeds of between 15 & 30 Mbps depending on the time of day.

I obviously do not know if your location is shown here but it looks like 5g is also available in some areas! 

Thanks @Espana Pete.  I'm about another 10 km north of that map and as you can see, coverage starts to get a bit thin from that point on.  I took your advice though and spoke to three of the main providers in our location but they all had the same story...no coverage in your road. In addition I asked about rural wireless and again..no coverage. It's almost unbelievable. 🤦‍♂️ 

Thanks for the suggestion Pete.

 

Cheers

 

Terry

22 minutes ago, Lord Farringdon said:

Thanks @Espana Pete.  I'm about another 10 km north of that map and as you can see, coverage starts to get a bit thin from that point on.  I took your advice though and spoke to three of the main providers in our location but they all had the same story...no coverage in your road. In addition I asked about rural wireless and again..no coverage. It's almost unbelievable. 🤦‍♂️ 

Wow, how annoying. The only suggestion left is Elon Musks satellite service "Starlink" but apart from being a rather expensive initial outlay, I have no idea if NZ is or will be able to receive this yet. Spain is still waiting and although I have tried to pay a deposit on their website it is yet to accept my bank card details and I am not the only one with this problem. Best wishes.

20 hours ago, Rob_Ainscough said:

Yikes!  As mentioned above ... try the 4G/5G route.  From the testing I've done in my area (Portland OR), I get on average 130 Mbps down with 5G.

But as far as Photogrammetry, even on my home network at 900+ Mbps I still get the "melted" look ... this is sadly common on other platforms also (not just MSFS) that take this approach to rendering the world.  It's not a matter of bandwidth that limits Photogrammetry, it's accuracy in the raw data used to provide the geometry and texture mapping.

You'll want to aim for about 40 Mbps and good buffer and low latency, higher latency will introduce more stutters when Photogrammetry is enabled.

Cheers, Rob.

Hi Rob and thanks for chiming in.  From your assertation that even high speed internet doesn't necessarily get the best PG outcomes as a result of raw data inaccuracies, i guess it gives me some reality about what my expectations should be even if I had an internet capability that could cope. From my original post anyone could probably gather I have never actually seen what PG looks like (even though I thought I had) except as horribly melted and unrecognisable buildings. But a couple things happened last night that allowed me a short time glimpse. 

We had a short local area power cut that took about 15 mins to come back on. It was 10.30 at night and without knowing how long the power cut would go for, most everyone, myself included probably thought it was time to go to bed rather than staying up all night watching movies, playing games or flying flight simulators! I suddenly realised that everybody had been kicked off the internet and there was a good chance not all would come back on when the power came back up. So as soon as the lights came on I fired up the sim PC, and pleaded with the router to come back on line ASAP. Then I checked internet speed and just as I thought, no one or very few had restarted their TVs or PC's again. There in front of me was 30Mbps!! I quickly loaded a flight out of London City with PG off and took some images. I honestly thought this was PG even though I knew I had it turned off!!. 

Then I turned on PG and saw this, the first time I have ever actually seen PG working:

Mind blowing, but alas short lived. Over the next half hour my internet speed just kept dropping back and eventually got to about 7Mbps before I called it a day.   Anyway, I can see what you say about the inaccuracies in the data probably not giving a much better outcome ( a couple of buildings looked they haven't been repaired from WWII bomb damage!)  Still it is a shame I cant see this on a normal day.  

Thanks for the information Rob. 👍

 

Cheers

 

Terry

 

 

        

You have to put pressure on the government to invest in broadband expansion, which the whole society will benefit from, 5mbs was what we had as a choice 20 years ago in Sweden, but otherwise 5G is probably the salvation for everyone who has bad broadband in the future.

27 minutes ago, Lord Farringdon said:

Then I turned on PG and saw this, the first time I have ever actually seen PG working:

     

While I have a 100MB/s Internet connection which most of the time delivers full speed, I can't recall ever having seen London PG in that excellent quality. Some other PG areas, yes, but not London.

I assume it must be a pretty complex interplay of factors still to research. (Granted, I didn't try after SU6 yet, but I doubt that matters.)

Kind regards, Michael

https://www.speedtest.net/global-index

As was mentioned by others....can you do this?  ...if you have 5G (or even 4G) I would try to route it through your phone -- assuming you have a smartphone with a data plan.

You can set up your phone as a hotspot and go from there.  I would think it would beat the 5 MBps you're getting currently...

I’ve never gotten rid of the melted buildings look and I’m running roughly 400 Mbps using Xfinity in the Chicagoland area. Even when I plugged directly into the modem/router and was getting 800 Mbps, the buildings continue to look melted.

Cheers, Pete

don't look at internet speed alone. I have 1000mb/s and a beefy system, but also have melted buildings

With my home cockpit I am using higher zoom values,

When flying an approach I can see the melted buildings in the far distance but when getting very close to them they change to their correct shapes.

 

actually strange that Asobo does not give some more info about how to prevent this, I will make a request on MSFS forum.