Warning regarding the new Nvidia 497.09 drivers

[Icantfly 38]

24 minutes ago, bobcat999 said:

You need to keep trying it.  Apparently, your brain will get used to it eventually and it won't make you sick any more!  😝   

Hi Bob, Brain is fine, once it tell me grab the "Yoke" in front of me and i do, then i forgive it and we are working together happily after this anyway.😁

The problem is that shortsightedness felling which i'm not and i think 90Hz is way too slow, maybe i'll try it with another big update, but this sickness tell me keep it away at least two weeks please.

 

[BufordTX 50]

Installed 497.09.  Full DDU, and install with bloat ware removed. Also cleared DX shader cache with disk cleanup for good measure.

Flew the DC-6 in VR for about 3 hours. Absolute butter the whole time. No crash, no stutter, just a hazy day in California. 

win 10 x64, HP G2, dx11 only, 10900k@5.2, evga 3090 FTW3, 64 MB at 4000.

Just a hunch but folks with issues, when CTD, sounds power supply max or thermal related.

it’s a keeper for me. 

[Funky D 272]

Talk about bad timing... I just did a clean install of Win11 on my new rig. Tested MSFS earlier this week with no addons and everything was fine. Installed all my addons today and didn't give a second thought to this updated driver I installed last night. Loaded up some flights and went from a few minutes, then CTD, to a CTD during loading screens. Spend the last hour messing with addons until I finally searched the driver version and found all these threads.😭

I committed the cardinal sin of testing EVERYTHING AT ONCE! 😁

[jcomm 5,939]

Same here.

Installed Win 11 last night, Latest Nvidia drivers for my RTX 3060 Ti, then pushed MFS from the cloud, and, CTD whenever I try to start a flight with any default aircraft 😕

Turns out that after having opted for DX12 ( beta ) mode I had no CTDs so far ( ? )

[bobcat999 8,483]

5 hours ago, BufordTX said:

Just a hunch but folks with issues, when CTD, sounds power supply max or thermal related.

Wow!  A bit of a statement there! 

Even when all these people had no problem before?  Configuration related maybe, but you don't get this amount of people all suddenly get power supply and / or thermal issues all in one go after simply swapping to a new driver. 

The cause and effect is fairly obvious, especially with the 'blue squares' appearing.  Also, when people roll back, they have no issues. 
Anybody who doesn't think it is the driver related to specific hardware or software configurations would be skipping over the obvious evidence.

[bean_sprout 1,201]

The latest game ready driver version is 472.12 from September 20th.

bs

[DylanM 1,069]

15 hours ago, BufordTX said:

Just a hunch but folks with issues, when CTD, sounds power supply max or thermal related.

Just take a peek at the poll here (Nvidia themselves have noted this as an issue with the drivers)

Poll: Nvidia 497.09 Experience - Community / General Discussion - Microsoft Flight Simulator Forums

[DylanM 1,069]

10 hours ago, jcomm said:

Turns out that after having opted for DX12 ( beta ) mode I had no CTDs so far ( ? )

Seems to be primarily a DX11 issue based on the reports - you could run in DX12 (brave 🙃) or revert back to a previous version if you want to run DX11.

[jcomm 5,939]

1 minute ago, DylanM said:

Seems to be primarily a DX11 issue based on the reports - you could run in DX12 (brave 🙃) or revert back to a previous version if you want to run DX11.

But now that I reverted to a previous Nvidia driver in Win 11, I don't want to get back to DX11 🙂

Win 11 + DX12 == GREAT ! SMOOTH !

[W2DR 1,860]

IF IT AINT BROKE DON'T FIX IT............

[Funky D 272]

3 hours ago, jcomm said:

Win 11 + DX12 == GREAT ! SMOOTH !

Wish I had the same experience... while DX12 fixed my CTD issues with the latest drivers, I went from 50-60 fps on my 3090 down to 30-40 with massive studders. Ran DDU and loaded the previous hotfix drivers that were linked in this thread and all is back to normal.

Strange how DX12 success is all across the board even on the same series of GPU's.

[Waldo Pepper 1,953]

Quote

@everyone If you're enrolled in the Open Pre-Release for the SU7 December Update via the Insider Hub, version 1.21.18.0 is available in the store for download. You can get the update in the XBox app or the Microsoft Store.

Details here:
https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/new-testing-build-1-21-18-0-releasing-december-7-2021-update-available-now/479787

This build fixes the crash to desktop issue for players using the latest Nvidia GeForce driver (497.09) and also includes updated AIRAC data.

Posted by Working Title in their Discord

[bobcat999 8,483]

5 hours ago, Waldo Pepper said:

Posted by Working Title in their Discord

Initial results are disappointing it seems.  DX11 still crashing with the new Nvidia drivers, plus this build is stopping the FBW WASM modules from initialising. 

It's a pity!  Back to the drawing board I suppose. They will probably try another build in the next day or two to fix the CTD. 
As the PMDG DC-6 and Aerosoft CRJ WASM seems to initialise, I dare say FBW will be having a look at the Airbus at their end to see if they can do anything. 

Funny how these things seem to get affected though.  It has always been the way with MSFS, where a change seems to affects something else seemingly unrelated.
They must be pulling their hair out!

Edited December 8, 2021 by bobcat999

[MrFuzzy 2,118]

1 hour ago, bobcat999 said:

Funny how these things seem to get affected though.  It has always been the way with MSFS, where a change seems to affects something else seemingly unrelated.
They must be pulling their hair out!

PMDG understood that and they gave up for now... sick of wasting their time chasing a moving target I guess.

[Ianrivaldosmith 5,317]

24 minutes ago, MrFuzzy said:

PMDG understood that and they gave up for now... sick of wasting their time chasing a moving target I guess.

It’s all a bit of a big (hot, (weather)) mess at the moment isn’t it. GOTY indeed.