14 minutes ago, Beardyman said:

Typical - have different opinion then u are not welcome...

You are wrong. We ate just wary of reading emotional turmoil  discharge of newcomers over and over LOL

28 minutes ago, Beardyman said:

Actually i have, but have mixed feeling to whole MSFS

I find that hard to believe…😏

It’s ok to just admit you came in guns blazing and aren’t speaking from actual experience with the DC6.🤣

52 minutes ago, Beardyman said:

Have a feeling that PMDG stepped into MSFS with too enthusiastic approach and now it is like searching a safe path on minefield. They should stay a while longer with P3D and let MSFS develop further

Why? There is no money to be made from P3D. PMDG may go bankrupt if they keep making new products for P3D.

On the other hand for MSFS, PMDG sold more DC6 for MSFS in the first 12 hours, than the combined DC6 sales for P3D + XP + FSX for all time.  When PMDG makes more money in 12 hours of sales than they ever made for over an entire decade on P3D + XP + FSX, why would PMDG want to go back to P3D?

Edited December 14, 20214 yr by abrams_tank

2 minutes ago, abrams_tank said:

Why? There is no money to be made from P3D. PMDG may go bankrupt if they keep making new products for P3D.

On the other hand for MSFS, PMDG sold more DC6 for MSFS in the first 12 hours, than the combined DC6 sales for P3D + XP + FSX for all time.  When PMDG makes more money in 12 hours of sales than they ever made for over an entire decade on P3D + XP + FSX, why would PMDG want to go back to P3D?

They would if they would like to visit "Bankruptcy Court"  😉

14 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

You are wrong. We ate just wary of reading emotional turmoil  discharge of newcomers over and over LOL

'Newcomer' is leaving u in peace 🙂

2 minutes ago, abrams_tank said:

Why? There is no money to be made from P3D. PMDG may go bankrupt if they keep making new products for P3D.

On the other hand for MSFS, PMDG sold more DC6 for MSFS in the first 12 hours, than the combined DC6 sales for P3D + XP + FSX for all time.  When PMDG makes more money in 12 hours of sales than they ever made for over an entire decade on P3D + XP + FSX, why would PMDG want to go back to P3D?

This could also be a factor of not having much available on the market and users were craving to have something, anything at the dc 6 standard, I myself purchased the dc6, but truth be told, if there were already high fidelity airliners already available I wouldn’t have purchased it, not because I don’t like it but because I wouldn’t of had a need for it. I’d surely be missing out on it, but I wouldn’t know any different….. I’m just speculating of course, and playing devils advocate that’s all. 

12 minutes ago, flyinpilot212121 said:

This could also be a factor of not having much available on the market and users were craving to have something, anything at the dc 6 standard, I myself purchased the dc6, but truth be told, if there were already high fidelity airliners already available I wouldn’t have purchased it, not because I don’t like it but because I wouldn’t of had a need for it. I’d surely be missing out on it, but I wouldn’t know any different….. I’m just speculating of course, and playing devils advocate that’s all. 

So if you believe in this, then it's imperative that PMDG go full throttle with MSFS and get their products out on MSFS  as fast as possible, to beat the coming competition.

All the more reason why PMDG shouldn't put too much resources on P3D, and perhaps even shift more of their P3D resources to work on their MSFS products.  The logic of your argument right there is counter to what @Beardyman says, that PMDG should shift their resources back to P3D.

PS. I don't think the "pent up" demand is as huge as a factor, as you claim (it's probably a factor, but not a major factor, IMO).  The market size of MSFS is just that much bigger than P3D and even XP.  MSFS is just a large market, and brought a lot of people that weren't flight simming, into flight simulation again.

Edited December 14, 20214 yr by abrams_tank

9 minutes ago, Beardyman said:

'Newcomer' is leaving u in peace 🙂

Just read up some forum history and you find it all LOL We are all in the same boat patiently waiting for fixes and improvement 🙂

PMDG states on their Forum that the issue with the DC6 on X box is a "platform problem," and is not something wrong or needs fixing in the DC6. They are waiting for Asobo to fix  the issue.  

Wow PMDG blaming Asobo/MS for not lining their pockets at the moment because the MSFS product don't fully support their product. Sounds like greed before patience pointing fingers here. Maybe they should take a step back in time and support ESP.

Edited December 14, 20214 yr by jbdbow1970

2 minutes ago, jbdbow1970 said:

Sounds like greed before patience pointing fingers here.

Really... 😉

1 hour ago, sd_flyer said:

Well may be then it's a wrong forum for you 🙂

Umm.  He said he had "mixed feelings" for MSFS.  So that disqualifies him for participation now?   Shame on Beardy.  Bad Beardy.  Bad.

1 hour ago, abrams_tank said:

So if you believe in this, then it's imperative that PMDG go full throttle with MSFS and get their products out on MSFS  as fast as possible, to beat the coming competition.

All the more reason why PMDG shouldn't put too much resources on P3D, and perhaps even shift more of their P3D resources to work on their MSFS products.  The logic of your argument right there is counter to what @Beardyman says, that PMDG should shift their resources back to P3D.

PS. I don't think the "pent up" demand is as huge as a factor, as you claim (it's probably a factor, but not a major factor, IMO).  The market size of MSFS is just that much bigger than P3D and even XP.  MSFS is just a large market, and brought a lot of people that weren't flight simming, into flight simulation again.

Ya I get your point, but I wasn’t at all arguing whether they should or shouldn’t go back to p3d, In fact I’m not a p3d user at all anymore since msfs and don’t benefit from them developing for p3d, it’s a speculation on my part as to why the sales were so high, and unless you are privy to pmdgs or Microsoft’s hard data, your point is strictly a speculation as well, so maybe it’s the influx of users, or maybe it’s not and more so a factor of a dry market in available add-ons of that level, I’m not sure, and you can’t be sure either (unless you do have access to their hard data, which you may) 

 

1 hour ago, jbdbow1970 said:

Wow PMDG blaming Asobo/MS for not lining their pockets at the moment because the MSFS product don't fully support their product. Sounds like greed before patience pointing fingers here. Maybe they should take a step back in time and support ESP.

This seems to be a spectacular example of reading one thing and understanding a preconception instead of the text.
Perhaps, in these days of "influencers", there is an unspoken motive at work.

The PMDG statement says: 

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Captains, As previously reported, Microsoft has determined what was causing the PMDG DC-6 for MSFS to be unusable on the Xbox platform and has a fix pending. That fix will take some time to land on your console and until that happens the DC-6 will remain unusable.

From Microsoft:

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 Unfortunately, an issue was identified that required the product to be pulled from the Marketplace for Xbox. We want to make sure that the experience of this aircraft is great when it arrives on Xbox, but it will likely take a few more months to achieve that. We apologize for the delay but are determined to ensure high quality.

Neither accuses anyone of anything.
It is unfortunate for XBox users but the rest of us can enjoy the masterpiece that it is on any platform from FSX through P3D to MSFS.

Edited December 14, 20214 yr by Reader

45 minutes ago, flyinpilot212121 said:

Ya I get your point, but I wasn’t at all arguing whether they should or shouldn’t go back to p3d, In fact I’m not a p3d user at all anymore since msfs and don’t benefit from them developing for p3d, it’s a speculation on my part as to why the sales were so high, and unless you are privy to pmdgs or Microsoft’s hard data, your point is strictly a speculation as well, so maybe it’s the influx of users, or maybe it’s not and more so a factor of a dry market in available add-ons of that level, I’m not sure, and you can’t be sure either (unless you do have access to their hard data, which you may) 

 

I think the DC6 is the perfect airrcraft for MSFS, and that is why it sold so well. You can cruise at low altitudes, and look at the scenery, instead of trying to imagine what the scenery looks like flying a tube liner at 36000 feet. It is also study level, everything on the aircraft works, a reasonable price,  and it is great to fly. What's not to like?